I feel that cesars wife knew more than she is telling..its so sad how brutal this murder was.. when it involves a child that is about to come into this world makes it more tragic…I hope the family gets justice… I hope that his wife is some how held responsible for her role in this.. which I think is greater than we know… as a mother of two grown daughters.. I feel the grief of marias family.. I am hoping that he will be captured and justice served… u can run cesar but u cant hide…

Makes me ill…
I hope that catch this cold blooded murderer.

KT,

Good questions and I have no answers. It seems like the FBI is content to work with the mexican police so I don’t know if we’ve got anyone looking for him independently. I’d say that if his family has money, then yeah, he might be protected. -Rod-

The Marine is a Mexican National, would the chances be greater that he would be protected while hiding out there?

I see the Marine is still not caught. Does anyone know if we have sombody in Mexico looking for him from the US or are we relying on the Mexican authorities to do this for us?

Speaking of criminals…

Los Angeles — Authorities snared a once-deported gang member who is one of Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s 10 Most Wanted fugitives in Los Angeles, according to MyFOXLA.com.

David Rivera, 33, a member of the MS-13 gang, has alleged links to several murders and prior arrests on sexual assault and drug charges as well as a conviction for gun possession.

More: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,325445,00.html

I haven’t heard about Dog the Bounty Hunter going to Mexico to get him. I don’t have the full story on the outcome of what’s going on with Dog. Is he allowed to Bounty hunt, is it just that he lost his tv show?

My first slideshow is up!

http://usapatriot.slide.com/

Susan,

I like what you pasted in from Greta’s. Frankly, I don’t care if the Mexicans ever get him. If they don’t and we do, we can then proceed with the DP on him. Or maybe some Marine vacationing in Mexico comes across him and he’s later found in an alley. You never know. What I don’t want is Mexico telling us what we can or cannot do with our citizens. -Rod-

He is a coward– I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes the easy way out– suicide-

So much for “justice”.

Becky–

I heard that too- not pursuing the death penalty—

from Greta’s—

: Watts, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:14 PM
To: Van Susteren, Greta; Cooper, Meade
Subject: Update from Mexico

It seems that no one is really interested in finding Cesar Laurean down
here, and there’s a reason why. I just got off the phone with NC DA
Dewey Hudson and he said that although he has filed all the necessary
paperwork om his end, a judge in Mexico needs to sign off on a warrent
for the arrest of Laurean and this has not happened. The paperwork has
not made its way through the chain of command, so there is no tipline,
no mexican 800 number and local and national law enforecment aren’t
going to look for someone without a warrent. Also I am asked Hudson if
he has any concerns that if La_rean is caught, he could thwart
extradition by claiming to be a Mexican national?? I am waiting on a
response. Also, according to locals, prisons down here are not as bad as
we are led to believe. Some prisoners even have cell phones and visiting
mistresses.

Sharon Nelson,

I notice that after taking me to task over Laurean’s citizenship status that you haven’t returned.

I assume your mistake was an honest one. We all make em and yeah, they are embarrassing. So what? C’mon back…there’s nothing to forgive. -Rod-

JACKSONVILLE, N.C. — A grand jury indicted a Marine on a first-degree murder charge Thursday in the death of a pregnant colleague, but a prosecutor said he wouldn’t seek the death penalty if the man is arrested in Mexico.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,325188,00.html

alright….thats enough!
Who was the dumby that brought up the gerbil anyways??? *G*

Yep………Richard Gerebil was rumored to be using his posterior as a “tread mill” and/or maze for small mammalia.

I think it’s safe to say that my Co*katiel idea was better though maybe not as fun -Rod-

Jen–

saw the comic relief-

Becky-

thanks so much!

John–

gerbils– I believe, as rumors flew at that time, Richard Gere was part of this– Hard to watch a movie with him in it- as I envision the gerbil–

Karen T, you are welcome. It will be interesting to see how this is all played out. Especially with the military involved.

Thanks Becky.

I truly think it is a crock that the death penalty comes off the shelf because he ran “home”.
Should make it ever more apparent that he is guilty!
But im also waiting for charges against the wife! She is far from innocent in this deal in my mind.

Thanks Becky. we probably wouldn’t get the marine back if the death penalty was on the table. I just don’t know it works with the military being involved. Puts a different spin onto it. Appreciate the article.

Just an FYI…I live in NC and on our local newspaper website I just saw a headline that said NC authorities are not going to pursue the death penalty for this case. If you would like to read the article you can check it out at http://www.charlotte.com

Ok Jen…i promise! *L*

(btw…im glad you cleared that up!)

I should say - I have heard about gerbils!!!!!!!!!

Patty–

You better never give me a hard time about 69 again!!! I even know about gerbils………

Karent T…but also, your tax dollars at work with all the homeland security….let them right on in the border!!!!!

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh *cough cough sputter sputter*
YUK!!!!!
guess i should have thought of that john. duh!
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see Karen T…i knew you would let me down, you had tons to say

John I never heard of such a thing…that’s disgusting, I wish I didn’t learn that today.

Thanks Patty.

If we can find 2 stowaways in the ceiling of an airplane then we can certainly find 300 tons of cocaine. I can see them wanting a better life coming from Ethiopia. But they can’t come here and live on the streets in fear of being deported once caught. They won’t have money or a place to live, they’ll be desperate and end up doing crimes to survive. We’ll end up taking the brunt of their crimes. They would have been better off going through the process to get here the right way.

I understand that Ethiopia is a 3rd world country, but Venezuela shouldn’t be turning into one with the amount of oil they’re producing.

Patty………It’s been rumored that certain individuals that prefer alternate sexual lifestyles have used the gerbil’s instinctive nature to burrough themselves into any orifice they find, for their own sick sexaul enjoyment. PC talk for, they liked to have the furry little critters crawl up their a$$es.

Karen T…look at john’s link. I know you have something to say about it!!!

Derek, thats cool with the dogs. Our son’s came from a place like that too. They are wonderful dogs.

John…I must be slow today cause im lost on the gerbil thing…what did i miss?

Gee Adam, I feel a little guilty.
Here I thought you were home already and getting some R&R, and here you’ve been busting your butt with work!

Susan- Phx- AZ,
I just saw your slideshow and you have some great pictures!
Becky

*waving*

HI ADAM!!!

Patty and Derek………..better watch out with those gerbils. Apparently there’s a certain sector of our society that also “loves” gerbils……..but it’s not because they’re look cute.

Patty, I have heard that. One of my old army buddies breeds them and they couldn’t come from a more loving, responsible breeder. He actually only breeds them once in awhile to give away to friends, it is not an income generator by any means. He has 5 kids that dote on them from the time they are little, he only gives them to homes that he knows (i.e. friends) and when my kids have gone to visit, those dogs have been nothing be lovable and fun for them. That is exactly the type of dog we want, just another member of the family that the boys can pal around with, they can take to the park, that will wrestle and play with them. I am with you on bad breeders, I hate animal cruelty, it sickens me

Good Morning…I see the Marine is still not caught.

Derek…bull mastiffs do have a bad rap around here. Only because jerks breed them like they do pit bulls. grrrrrrrr Just check out where your little ones will come from, make sure they were treated decent.
Our son has a mastiff……..she’s huge, lovable to no end, lazy as a pig, spoiled as heck and we adore her! (actually she looks/acts alot like our son! *L*) My kind of dog!

Jen..that was cute!!

hummmm.

where’s adam???

derek…you didnt ask me…but … birds are dirty in the house. IMO. How about a gerbil? more confined for the mess, and as much as i hate anything that resembles a mouse, our kids loved gerbils while they were little.

‘morning all!

Derek,

I’d say Co*katiels. They’re smarter than a parakeet, larger than the ‘keets but smaller than a parrot (who tend to screech loudly at times) make good talkers and if you get hand-fed babies (there’s a premium price put on that) you find you have the sweetest and often funniest pet possible. Do some internet research on Co*katiels, hand fed babies in particular, and see what you come up with. It’s what I would choose. I’m going back to bed. I only got up to feed the girls -Rod-

Sheesh. I had to censor the post…

http://www.comicspage.com/comicspage/main.jsp?catid=1160&custid=69&file=20080121cssho-a-p.jpg&code=cssho&dir=/shoe

Maybe everyone is in a bad mood.

Rod—my boys are full court pressing for a pet. cats and dogs are out, due to our apartment for the next year. I was thinking fish or maybe a turtle, but that seems boring. What about birds? you seem knowledgeable on the subjecct. Would birds make a good pet for 3 boys? I want my boys to be able to have something to take care of that they can also interact with. Care of the pet is paramount in our decision, so this is going to be a family effort. My boys are young but up until this point have been very responsible. I am sure I will have to help out with alot of the care (they can feed and take care of him mostly, dad will get stuck with the cage cleaning and taking the bird to the vet) What do you recommend? we are in a small apartment (only 1500 sq ft) for the next year, once my wife finds a house, we will move to that however. Would we be best to wait until we move? I am assuming most birds are very social, and so we would probably end up with 2. I want to make the right choice, and I am at a loss when it comes to birds. I can tell you once we find a house with a yard, we are getting 2 bull mastiffs. I am very impressed with that breed, they are gentle with kids, loyal, big enough to ride, tolerant of pulling on their ears, scary to intruders, and would die before they would let anyone hurt their human companions (I have a friend that breeds them, and they are truly amazing with my kids) I would love for them to get a jump on the whole pet thing, and start caring for something now. What are your thoughts?

No news on OJ and Britney either? Hmmm Somethings going on….

Another “bright” moment for airline security……….

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=67662

Yeah………..who farted?

It seems like everyone jumped ship…no posts in 3 hours…

Amy,

True. Or fungal/bacterial infections from not cleaning the feeders. My 5 feeders empty out at least once per day, up to 3x in the Summer, so fermenting nectar isn’t an issue. Bird-borne infections are possible too with so many individuals drinking from the same 20 holes. I clean them all with bleach and water every few days. They live up to 12 years but have to die sometime. -Rod-

Susan, O’Reilly is covering Venezuela, maybe your email worked

Rod, that is sad, that they died. Sometimes they can get sick if someone leaves the nectar out in the hot sun for too many days. Then it becomes toxic for them, and can kill them.

Susan, I found your slide show. Great pics. Nice ones of the bloggers. Where was I tho? lol jk

I just loved that black panther. They are my favorite wild animals, next are zebra’s.

Cute bat pic. Some of you bloggers seem to know so much about each other. It seems like you guys talk somewhere else other than here?

Well it is 5am again. Time for me to hit the sack! lol Pass time actually. I think I am gonna skip physical therapy again tomorrow. Still fighting this cold. I don’t want to get all wet in the pool and then out into the freezing rain as it is supposed to do again tomorrow.

Not to mention the freezing rain has left everything coated with ice, and with my bad dislocating knees, its even harder to walk and try to keep my knees from slipping out. But at least I have that stupid walker with wheels to help me out now. But it makes me feel like a granny! lol But I do like the built in seat. hehehe

Oh I read that they know that the marine was or is in Mexico. One of his relatives told authorities that he came by to visit him just days ago.

Hopefully he will still be around for them to nab.

Goodnight everyone!

Amy, got ya. I thought it was odd when I discovered that only western hemisphere has hummers, but I guess it makes sense. It’s too bad though. The rest of the world is missing something special.
BTW, It really IS neat when they come up and check you out, huh? I had one stop 8 or 12″ in front of me, slowly move around the right side of my head, then back to the front and to the left side of my head…checking me out. All the time I could feel the wind from his wings on my face and neck. It was really cool. A few times every Summer I have to rescue Hummers that get up in our carport and can’t get out. I net em and let em loose. They are feather light, weighing about as much as a penny or a dime. I’ve had two die at the feeders last year too. They just appear to go to sleep…Hummers sleep looking up at the sky…and in an hour or so I find them hanging upside down from the perch. Sad. -Rod-

Rod,

I don’t think that the hummers might be able to come over to europe. I was just saying that, that is one of the things I miss about being over here, is that I don’t get to see those wonderful creatures anymore.

Susan, you sure do have a great memory! I hope you enjoy your slott! hehehe And you better put water in your moat, just in case a tiger might want to jump over into your slott! hehehe

I hear what you’re sayig.

I am so tired– as how I feel about him–(it should read)

Well Rod–

stay inside with the girls–

I just went to see if Rebeca and Alfredo have been around- in the last thread– I hope they don’t think- out of sight, out of mind–

keep warm–

xxxxxxxx

KT–

I know– a picture of the day–

I will have to see what Adam has here tomorrow– I am not like real interested in the Marine- except until when he gets caught as to see how he will be tried and so forth– so far- he murdered a pregnant girl- set her on fire- perhaps his wife is implicated- and he fled–maybe seen to be having a drink with someone- friend- family- maybe in Mexico– As what I how I feel about him- he is a cold blooded murderer and a coward– couldn’t face the music—

Amy-

I am going to my “slott” to read-

It’s miserable, Susan. The rain is almost blowing sideways and the temp is 38 out back on the deck.
I went through one of those wild temp swings once. In the Springs a hailstorm blew in one Summer and the temp dropped from the mid 80’s down to around 15 degrees in a matter of minutes. The temp swing shattered windows all over town. People caught out shopping or whatever in shorts and tshirts were just miserable for hours. Night! -Rod-

Pssstt… Adam… Picture of the Day.

Rod–

bad weather again? I hope it doesn’t get worse–

I heard something interesting today while driving back home- I thought of Janice Dean–

a year ago, I believe, Montana suffered one of the most worse weather conditions- the temperature was up 44 and then dropped to minus 55 just like that–

I am tired too- I am going to read the book I started way back when and have just put on ignore– it feels like a read night–

good night– and I hope you are safe and warm tonight-

xxxxxxxxx

Night Patty!

Maybe Adam’s trying to track Laurean on his own… -Rod-

Maybe Adam is still trying to read through all the posts!!!! ha ha

Rod, yep, that sounds like a adult coon!!!

Nite all! Till tomorrow

Hiya Susan!

No Adam…he’s missing a good storm though. The one overhead right now is almost a duplicate of the one a couple of weeks ago. -Rod-

Amy,

Sorry about this, but Hummers are strictly western hemispheric. I’m not sure why as you’d think they’d do ok in Europe, but maybe there’s just no wintering grounds for them, no rain forest or anything. Libya is an unlikely place to find that I guess.

Amy, it’s kinda neat that the farmers would bother to save orphaned ‘coons. There’s no doubt that as adults they are a king-sized pain in the butt. I lived in the sticks in the early 80’s and it was a constant battle. They got into everything and even a 50 pound rock wouldn’t keep them out of a garbage can. Our steel lid was sunk in from the weight! -Rod-

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Because you noticed my post, I am returning this by buying your book— thanks

Amy–

I left a slide show way up there– you can see Arizona- a bit– put your cursor over the pictures for the caption-

Tammy–

thanks -

I sure miss those little birds here in Sweden. It is too cold here for the hummingbirds to come. I miss the finches too. I had both of them coming to my feeders when I was in the USA. They are just so beautiful!

I remember one year we were out on the balcony and a hummer came right up to my daughter, right in her face, just fluttering looking at her eye to eye. And then it flew back to the feeder. It was amazing to get to see it so close up.

I just got home– was Adam on the tele today? So I can catch him later?

Comment by ERS
January 23rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
I agree with Susan that there is something even more disturbing about the dishonor killings of the Said sisters in suburban Dallas. Perhaps it’s knowing that some people in his community will treat the father as a hero for slaughtering his beautiful daughters. Perhaps it’s all the tippy-toeing around the dishonor killing issue by the media.

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ERS–

thanks– frightening to think if you disobey, you will be murdered– so what does this tell me about the women who are having to live like this? they live in fear and are repressed–

I believe there was another story like this where a girl was stabbed to death by one of her family members a couple years ago because she had stepped outside of their circle– I saw this and also saw her parents being arrested– Another story which made my insides churn-

Comment by John
January 23rd, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Derek, you got weed? Homegrown, or import. Acapulco Gold was big in my time, or was that Hawaiian Gold? Can’t remember….. like Cal Ripken couldn’t remember his first at bat……..just too many
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Tai sticks–
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Momma coons end up getting killed by coyotes and such and the babies get left behind in hollow trees etc. Many farmers around here will run across them try to find homes. You about have to get them before thier eyes are open, so you are the first thing they see, other wise they are pretty spooked and never really calm down.

Wierd. Do the raccoon babies just wander in or are the cats finding them and bringing them home? 10-4 on the wholesaler. Wally World is the cheapest source around here. I think it’s about 2.20/pound in the 10 pound bag. -Rod-

Rod, yep on the thistle seed!! Need to find a wholesale outlet! *L*
I dont remember how many cats there were last summer. Now we dont see them, they stay in the hay shed and eat down there.
We have a “baby” racoon almost every spring. They drink out of a regular baby bottle, and love marshmellows! Everyone seems to be the same…marshmellows and garden spiders.
They are so much fun!! And in the fall….they go do the natural thing, and we dont see them again.

Michele (Pitts)… I was wondering that too. Either his cousin wants to turn him in for the reward money, or he wants to turn him in because it’s the right thing to do or he purposely gave that story to throw off track.

Patty,

I see you already know about the cost of thistle seed
How many cats are there? A pet raccoon too! I think we’re probably a lot alike when it comes to animals. -Rod-

Michelle, I agree, this whole story seems fishy. Too many unanswered questions again.

It seems to me that one would not go to Mexico, stop in to see a cousin for temn minutes and not tell him why I was there or what I was doing.

Whta if the cousin is lying, allowing Cesar Laurean time to get anywhere in the world?

ok thanks…

and Rod, nope heard nothing about why Adam’s live spot didn’t air.

Look here Rod
http://www.slide.com/r/BFCNoLxDxz8lsSBjxo8a-2FFibiQdMOo?previous_view=lt_embedded_url

Kansas Rod

Patty, can I ask where you are? I love the little goldfinches, which are the yellow ones. Thistle seed is expensive though. A month’s worth of seed for them is a week’s worth of food for me…the hummers are definitely my favorites. -Rod-

Rod, we have tons of finches too. Love ‘em!! So much fun to watch. Although the bright yellow bellied ones don’t stay in the winter. Just the dingy ones are here.
When the ice was so bad i just threw hand fulls of seed on the ground, man oh man they scurried like crazy! You’d have thought they were going to run out.

Here you go sharon. The quote and the sourceL

“Laurean, 21, is a native of Gu