Which is better Marie… being politically correct so we don’t hurt the feelings of naturalized citizens who want and deserved a better life or reducing the risk of espionage?

This nation was founded on immigrants and I’m not seeing anyone here saying anything bad about them. This is about naturalized citizens that became naturalized for the purpose of espionage.

I’d wager that our Dry Feet policy has indeed welcomed quite a few spies in from Cuba. It’d be silly to believe otherwise. -Rod-

DIA (Defense Intelligence Agency) analyst Ana Belen Montes, convicted of espionage in 2002, told Cuban intelligence officers about a secret U.S. Army Special Forces camp in El Salvador that she visited in 1987. Weeks later, the camp was attacked by pro-Cuban guerrillas of the Marxist group Farabundo Marti National Liberation Front, DIA counterspy Scott W. Carmichael says in his book, “True Believer.” Mr. Carmichael, who led the DIA’s investigation of Montes, said in an interview that other Cuban agents are operating inside the U.S. government. “I believe that the Cuban Intelligence Service has penetrated the United States government to the same extent that the old East German intelligence service, the Stasi, once penetrated the West German government during the Cold War,”…(Washington Times, 15 Mar 07)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,330415,00.html

I agree that we’re in a religious war. The ONE thing that Bush did that I disagree with about the WOT was denying that fact. It doesn’t matter that it’s not *all* Muslims. Hey, OBL pledged to kill 2 million Americans. So far he’s roughly 1,994,000 short. Excuse me if I take that threat seriously. We need to step up our efforts to ensure our safety. If the Muslims are offended at being searched and scrutinized, they should ask themselves how offended we’d be were a nuke to detonate in Baltimore…or a nail bomb in a crowded mall. Excuse me if I don’t care that they are offended. -Rod-

They miscalculated, they grabbed the tail of the tiger thinking the tiger would stay asleep. The tiger not only woke up but put a tiger pounce on them. They have scrambled, and are resorting to blowing up handicapped women and children because so many of them do not have the courage to follow their own beliefs.

We do not seek to change the muslim’s, we only seek to destroy a small segment of them. That is where we run into problems, because we do not persecute them, they are allowed to live, work, serve, and worship in our country. It is very difficult to distinguish between a well meaning muslim and a fanatic until the fanatic has done his harm.

I have many muslim friends that I respect and converse with and even they are stumped for answers when it comes to radical islam.

Saudi Arabia is beginning to give us a glimpse into how the rest of the worlds muslims live. Perhaps the muslims in america are heretics for believing in tolerance and kindness and understanding. Perhaps this world is going to explode into an all out holy war.

I wish we had a way of telling who was doing bad and who was doing good before the damage was done, but i think that would impede on our freedoms even more.

I do think that bringing back military firing squads for traitors, conspirators, spies, and the like would help deter a lot of it.

somewhere- maybe in the wine site, I saw a picture of you pitching– How fast could you pitch and how fast could you pitch today?

This is my question for the day-

You do away with dual citizenship by making a naturalized citizen give up his native citizenship as well as by prohibiting natural born US citizens from becoming a citizen of another country unless he gives up his US citizenship. -Rod-

Me too– if it is it too hard to remove your hat– don’t wear one then-

I fall in the 80% of your 10-80-10- let the truth be known-

K2– I have also stated that- corruption is been a long time thing in Mexico–

NATURALIZED CITIZEN – One who, being born an alien, has lawfully become a citizen of the United States Under the constitution and laws.

To change this, you would have to duke it out with the Constitution and the statutes-

Maybe 1/2 that money should be earmarked for use on Mexico’s NORTHERN border. Mexico needs to help us out here. -Rod-

I recall a whole series of conversations on a board called “itshappening.com” after 9/11, with a US Marine who happened to be a naturalized citizen and an Arab. It wasn’t pretty. In the run up to Iraq he was very frank in telling us that he wasn’t sure he could shoot at another Muslim. I find that line of thinking unconscionable. For all I know he’s the guy that went over the hill…twice…and finally disappeared into Lebanon.

People rightfully point out that we can’t just discriminate against these guys, but at the same time we have to be realistic. If their beliefs put them at odds with the mission, then we do ourselves, them and their fellow Marines a disservice by sending them into a combat zone. If their divided loyalty is going to cause them to run off or kill their officers and other Marines, (there’s one case of that I know of) then we can’t put them in that position. -Rod-

You are correct, one big difference is the Stuff – Equipment. But, the stuff is approximately 50% of the budget.

Also, Mexico is now questioning who will train their military / police.

The drug issue is huge…..but, the corruption in Mexico was there long before the drug trafficking.

I may be a little more sympathetic to ‘helping’ with this initiative, if the leaders of Mexico would stop encouraging their citizens to illegally enter the USA.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120277819085260827.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

almost freed, read this.
And now I remember Jose Serrano from NY being one of the best friends of Chavez. see why.

I think we should return to executing those who spy against our country.

Adam

It always ticks me off when I stand for our anthem and I see men who refuse to take off their hats.

Adam

My baseball coach in college, who is also a great teacher, always used a 10-80-10 idea. It basically means this….10% of the population are leaders, 10% are losers and the 80% in the middle are shoulder shruggers/followers. Problem is….sometimes the 10% losers get the following.

Adam