HOORAH!

This was a huge topic in Northern California and for that matter around the country in recent days. All over the radio yesterday were reports of the chanting and displays both for, and against the Berkeley City Council and their controversial condemnation of the Marines. Code Pink were of course in favor, while even some adamantly opposed to the war say the council went too far. So…they’ve changed their mind? Or did they just change their rhetoric to get people off their backs and federal dollars continuing to flow into their city? Here’s an article.
BERKELEY, Calif. (AP) - City council members who were criticized for telling Marine recruiters they don’t belong here have moderated their position, saying they oppose the Iraq war but support the troops.The Berkeley City Council voted two weeks ago to send a letter to a downtown recruitment station advising the Marines they were not welcome.After a marathon session that stretched into early Wednesday, the council decided against sending the letter, saying it recognizes recruiters’ right to be in Berkeley. The council members say they still strongly oppose the war and the recruitment of young people, but “deeply respect and support” the men and women of the armed forces.Some on the council had pushed for issuing an apology. READ MORE
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I stood outside in support of the Marine Recruiters office in Berkely on Feb 13th for hours in support of our citizens right to free choice to enter the office to conduct private business. All the Code Pink banners and TeeShirts said “End the War.” Wrong venue. Their shirts should have said “End the Right to Choose-Bring Back the Draft So we don’t Need the Office Here.” I would prefer to have an office that offers employment, educational benefits, health plan, and a career, than let the youth wander the streets on drugs and alcohol. If they want to live in a place where choice is not an option try a country where you don’t get these rights. The veterans that came that day stood tall, proud. The Police watching the event were very courteous, in spite of a few uninitiated outbursts from the pink.
By the way, Obama doesn’t have the guts either to fight for his country. He is a super liberal with all mouth!! I wouldn’t want him to lead me into battle, he would be yelling to his troops, CHANGE, CHANGE, Change your direction and Retreat!!
Our colleges today are institutions of liberalism and anti-government. Liberal students are so anti-war and don’t have the guts to serve their country let alone becoming a United States Marine. I am a U.S.Army vet, but I support all of our armed force branches. If we had a draft today these are the same liberal students that would be burning their draft cards. They should all be ashamed to call themselves Americans and are a disgrace to all the brave men and women that are willing to sacrifice their lives for these non-supportive losers!!
Did any of you see the video of the Police removing protesters?
The police are vindicated!
Derek, what a great concept. I would love to see that happen. I’m quite sure Berkeley would somehow disappear off of the map.
Adam,
As usual, you are dead on. I figure the change is more to keep the dollars flowing. Make no mistake about it, either: Berkeley is not alone. I have often said out loud that the disdain many Americans have for the men and women in uniform (any uniform) will lead to crisis. Let’s hope I am wrong.
Take care,
Philosophical Cop
There weren’t pigs on mars? I could have sworn that is why I am wearing this tinfoil hat.
Expecting the invasion any day
Susan, thanks… I didn’t know others had that opinion, didn’t see Beck and I missed Miller Time on the Factor.
Max–
speaking of global warming- did you see Henry’s post on the Venezuela thread-
What can you expect of a president that says that there were pigs in Mars, but the U.S Empire desintegrated them by increasing global warming in the Universe. Please, give me a break! Chavez is out of his mind he needs mental help, we all know that! refer to this news here:
John–
I think it was O’Reilly who made fun of Obama and his incessant use of the word-hope-
A better example would be the pied piper, he was good at leading, but led people down the wrong path.
Max,
yes
Avi: I wasn’t saying he is the same, just that the best Public speakers aren’t always the best leaders.
Max,
yah…. but i wont go that far and compare him to adolf…..
He is a great speaker
In my opinion Hitler was one of the greatest orators of the last century. He owned the crowd.
Pity he used his powers for evil.
I don’t think any of the three candidates that are left in the running are worth a hoot……….McCain is basically a one term candidate. Not because of his age, but the republican party has pretty much already eluded to that. Thus they are more likely to back a Democrat this time around so that they can blame everything on him/her in 2012. Obama keeps harping on the need for change, but won’t specify what he’ll change , or how. And Hillary,…….well, let’s just ask, ‘Do we really want another Clinton era?’…….I didn’t think so.
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Karen 2,
yah …. what it is he knows how to speak like a Rabbi or Priest and he knows how to hype people….. and mess with peoples mind….
I will say this didnt the terrorist say they will take over america from the ” inside out” ……
Im not suspious of him becuz of his race but becuase of his background and being that im jewish it makes it that much more oddd….
His dad is a Muslim thats a fact
So a christan mom and a muslim dad =/
And his way of speaking also scares me
HES VERRRRRRY SCREAMMYYY LIKE ….. ?
Susan,
I agree we need to actors ( candidates) in the race im sick of all of them…. INDEPENDENT ???
BUt in the case Senator Barak Hussien Obama is elected president im sure that he will be quickly dealth with by the Republicans and others……
if not than …… you gotta pray
Susan: In England we had less rain than average for a few years, they blamed the drought on Global Warming.
Last year when there was lots of rain and flooding in the UK they blamed it on Global Warming.
Any time someone claims that opposite problems come from the same source i feel free to ignore them.
♥ is & hearts ; but without the spaces.
Avi,
Hate to say it, but a bit of sweet justice that a car bomb (his favorite weapon) got him!
As for Obama, he worries me too. He is a great speaker - will give him that. But, I have seen as much excitement at a rock concert - and I would not want the band running the USA!
If he wins the Democratic nomination - I can just imagine the MSM reporting on how and why the Republican nominee was attacking Obama. This election cycle, just keeps getting more interesting.
Avi–
He makes me nervous too– My fear is how he wouldn’t acknowledge the flag- was it because of his religious beliefs? who knows–
they ought to start from scratch– start with a bunch of new candidates
I think it is hilarious Huckabee is staying in–
Obama … scares me….. i wont say what i gotta say about him…..
Avi–
like Obama calling his campaign- a movement!
sus,
yea we do here … and no i dont….. im single …
K2,
Yah they cry like theres no tomarrow when one of them dies…… and they call it terror but when they attack and kill innocent they call it resistence and in the name of ” jihad”
And then when someone uses their mommy to corroborate the story, I just want to scream-
My mother said B12 is …..
I can get by using the steroids but lying …… Grown man and acting like the kid who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar- :blush:
kt–
Your article you posted with your name–
I agree- Congress has bigger fish to fry than trying to see who is telling the truth or lying with the Clemens issue– Dennis Miller and Glenn Beck think so too–
I wonder if Roger is teaching his kids how to lie? Does he have kids?
Well– duh-
???????????????? HAPPY VALENTINE’S DAY????????????????
Don’t know of any nother way and yes, that’s the same program.
But I had to copy and paste– is there another way to get the symbols over here without copying and pasting?
????????
This is fun–
I opened up Microsoft Office Word- same thing?
????????
What program do you use to write a letter?
?
Nope– now what–
To find Word:
- Click on Start
- All Programs
- Look for Microsoft Word then click on it to open
KT-
word program? Like explain– where do I find that?
Avi–
do you guys celebrate Valentine’s Day and if so- do you have a girlfriend?
Susan do you have word program on your computer?
Avi–
I hope you are miles away when the rumble starts-
Susan get ready for some rumbel….
adam now that i think of it …… remember those planes i told you about….. and then that guy is killed…. odd?
K2–
The Marines were insulted- bottom line–
and what hypocrisy– they oppose war but yet incited a bit of a war themselves- what is with that?
Avi,
Isn’t it amazing how Hezbollah, Tehran, etc. get all upset when one terrorist is killed…..but, when a car bomb goes off killing a group of innocent citizens, we hear no cries of outrage.
How is it one bad guys life is so much more important than the lives of the men, women and children in a street market?
As my brother says “make the bad guy die for his cause”. Glad someone was finally able to help Imad Mughniyeh, die for his cause. May his brothers in arms soon follow.
KT– Are you seatwist?
Adam,
what do you think will happen…..
Avi–
alarm bells are ringing in my ears!
KT–
Do what?
I need the step by step–
Terri– You are vegan?

A couple years ago, we had certain hours in which to run the water- I don’t waste water or electricity– this I am not guilty of- We take showers once a month- and I do laundry every other year- and the most electricity I use is running this computer-
Israel’s army chief orders IDF land, sea and air forces to prepare to defend the country’s northern borders and interests
February 14, 2008, 4:43 PM (GMT+02:00)
Defense minister Ehud Barak said the entire national defense system is fully prepared and alert as heavy Israeli reinforcements, including homeland defense units, were rushed Thursday to northern Israel.
Lt. Gen. Gaby Ashkenazi gave these orders Thursday, Feb. 14, 24 hours after a bomb killed Hizballah’s military commander Imad Mughniyeh in Damascus.
DEBKAfile’s military sources report that he took these unprecedented steps following a stream of incoming intelligence updates reporting that Iran, Syria and Hizballah had decided not to let Mughniyeh’s death pass without an immediate response.
Israeli forces have been placed on the highest level of preparedness against possible Syrian or Hizballah cross-border strikes. Rocket attacks by Hizballah against Israeli civilians are also taken into account, as well as possible Syrian air force incursions into Israel air space.
Jerusalem has denied Hizballah and Iranian allegations of responsibility for the death of the Lebanese master terrorist.
DEBKAfile reported earlier Tehran, Damascus, Hizballah leadership are coordinating efforts to wreak their revenge for Mughniyeh’s death, convinced that Israel’s Mossad planted the small bomb in the master terrorist’s Mitsubishi Pajero in the heart of the Syrian capital. Wednesday night, all Hizballah’s top leaders went to ground. Hassan Nasrallah did not attend the funeral Thursday but broadcast his eulogy by video. He declared if Israel wants war, so be it. “The blood of slain commander will lead to Israel’s demise.”
Susan… try going into Microsoft Word and use the Insert option
?? Happy Valentines Day ??
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That word press always messes me up
?? Happy Valentines Day ??
Terri, I got that info from AM radio 840. At 5pm there’s a talk show on and they cover a lot of bad things happening in the school system, everyday they report on it. It’s just what I heard, I don’t know how accurate it is. I wish I was able to homeschool. Matthew will get through that fine. Nice that they will come to your house!
KT perhaps this is why Adam enjoys torturing us with the picture! Maybe we have said stuff that makes him crazy. Pay Back is H*ll. too funny to think about!
Terri,
Love your Valentine!
The most disturbing thing about the protests against the recruiting office was the position taken by the Berkeley City Counsel.
I support freedom of speech - and even understand how burning of the flag is a form of speech - although I would never burn our flag and hate seeing it done.
But the position taken by this city - against the federal agency which affords them freedom - is, in my opinion, not freedom of speech but an act of treason.
As city government, your job is to manage your city. If a few people did not like Betsy’s Dress Shop, would the city have voted to call it an unwelcome intruder? Would the city have allowed individuals to block the entrance? Would they city have allowed people to chain themselves to the door? Would the city have allowed people to ‘paint’ things (bloody hand prints) on the store fronts windows?
I suspect NOT. And the individuals participating in these types of activities would have been arrested.
So, how is it this city could not see the difference? Are they so blinded by their hatred for the current administration that they no longer can see right from wrong? One has to wonder what other types of bias’ rule this city.
The residents of Berkeley need to step back - do a little soul searching - and take a long hard objective look at themselves. And admit - they don’t support our troops, the war to protect our freedom, or anything but their own selfish wants! I agree - Let Berkeley Support Themselves. See how many will be willing to reach deep into their own pockets - not the government coffers - to pay for and protect themselves from the ‘evil USA’.
As for Code Pink - all I can say is I hope you never need to be protected from loosing your freedoms - as our proud and brave are willing to sacrifice all for you in another land. Heaven help you Code Pink, if this fight is brought to the streets of the USA. Where will you be protesting then?
Thanks you guys.. I love that message myself…
anyhoo..
Susan…
yes, we long time Veganites have been worried about water for YEARS…
but our deep pocket city planners are so busy taking money from developers..
Well, we’ll be moving to Beaver someday w/ our 700 foot well! We are right at the base of a mountain, so I hope we keep getting that good clean freezing cold mountain water!!
We will peel rubber out of this town.
POWELL AND MEAD HALF FULL
The study, which was released Tuesday, found that if current conditions persist, there’s a 50 percent chance the reservoirs will no longer be able to generate hydropower by 2017.
Lake Mead, on the Arizona-Nevada border and the West’s largest storage reservoir, and Lake Powell, on the Arizona-Utah border, have been hit hard by a regional drought and are half full. Both lakes were created by dams built on the Colorado River, which provides water for about 27 million people in seven states.
Researchers said that if Lake Mead water levels drop below 1,000 feet, Nevada would lose access to all its river allocation, Arizona would lose much of the water that flows through the Central Arizona Project Canal, and power production would cease before the lake level reached bottom.
Pierce said the conclusions in the Scripps study are based partially on an estimated reduction in runoff of 20 percent over the next 50 years. He said that figure was used because it split the difference between the 10 to 30 percent decrease in runoff the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change predicts will occur over the next 50 years.
SUSTAINABILITY TO REQUIRE ACTION
Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano said that while the Scripps findings differ from the Central Arizona Project’s, she agrees with the fundamental point made by Scripps, “which is to say that as our population grows, sustainability is going to require action with respect to water.”
“We’re still the second-fastest growing state in the country and we still have to be planning on that in terms of sustainability, which is a good concept,” Napolitano said. “Water needs to be a part of that, obviously.”
Terri–
Did you hear Vegas and Az might have a water shortage as well as with electricity?
A couple of our lakes are drying up– less showers for me now- lol
How do I insert hearts in here?
I am waiting for Adam’s new post– Roger Clemens?
oops, it is*
Terri: is it s sweet message.
Terri–
I like your message! on your blue name!
Oh boy Avi!!
Things are getting a little tense.
God bless.
OH,
HAPPY VALENTINE’S DAY!
click on my blue name for my message on Happy Heart Day!
Yes Susan.. I watched Glenn… and as usual… he was so right.
It’s so depressing … the way our world is going. It’s just bass ackwards.
, Mughniyeh died in a car bomb attack in Syria.
could not have happened to a nicer guy–
Ten to one, Adam posts a thread on Roger today–
Terri– did you see our bud Glenn Beck last night? He was on a roll–
O’Reilly and Judge Napolitano had an argument about this issue last night- Napolitano insisted this was their right to exercise the freedom of speech (the rallying) and O’Reilly called this fascist thinking-
Personally– if these people want so bad to have the Marines move shop somewhere else, then stop all funding to Berkely and next time there is a freak disaster and Berkely gets hit, ignore Berkely–
How ridiculous are they? All over parking?
Freedom…what a concept
You are free to say things that are against the very fiber of my being
You are free to worship whoever, whatever, however you please
You are free to believe the most ridiculous of concepts
You are free to protest the very group that gives you those freedoms
This is how we are the greatest nation on earth.
Even though I would get great satisfaction from ejecting these people from the park, I have to admire our country for allowing even the most idiotic people to have a voice.
What the city of berkley did was wrong, while the pinky’s should be allowed to say whatever they want to whoever they want, the government should only keep the peace and not facilitate them in any way.
I am for teaching the city of berkley a very powerful lesson, I do believe that it was berkley university that chased army recruiters off a couple years ago. To teach them a lesson I believe they should do without what the military provides them with. Freedom, the federal government should withdraw completely from that city, no money, no aid, no FBI, no DEA, no national guard. allow them to sustain themselves for 3 years (the standard enlistment for a new marine) let them form their own militia’s to protect themselves from roving, burned-out college kids that are starving because their federal grants no longer support their free living days. Let the university try to maintain law and order when these “peace loving kids” are taking what they can to survive, let them solve their own murders when a hippy goes wild in a drug induced frenzy. let the streets fall into disrepair, let the plumbing blow up, let the power be severed, let the water be shut off.
Give them a taste of what they really want, absolute independence, they can generate their own power, purify their own water, protect their own property, enforce their own laws. Make a toll gate that charges them to leave the city to work.
We can go back in after three years and accept their apologies, restore their city from what I am guessing will look like somalia, and ask them what they learned.
I am all for freedom, all freedom, but this has crossed the line into treason.
Give the United State of Berkley its independence
Free Berkley
We can even send in ambassadors to represent the United States to the newly formed country of Berkely
I would be interested in what our trade agreements would be with them as well as treaties.
Could be fun
John,
I remember when that whole thing happened like it was yesterday.
It was so shocking and sickening.
That freak is burning in he!! ~ what a shock it must be to these guys that they don’t have all these virgins waiting at the other end.
” What Comes Around, Goes Around ”
http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=68534
I mean,
“freaks me all out and scares me”.
KT, you said: Terri, have you heard about the CCSD / teachers locking the children up in in small, dark, windowless closets until the child relaxes to level that the teacher deems to be OK to release?
NO! I haven’t heard that … and re: your daughter.. that is awful…. I would hate that!
I will be homeschooling Matthew….. for a million reasons…. but that kind of thing scares me.
Since Matthew is almost 3, we’re getting ready to have him tested for services from the CCSD…
but since he’s immune compromised and medically fragile, they will come here a couple times a week.
I need to watch the local news more often, I pretty much only watch National news!
But like I always say (and never do) I need to lay off the news for a while, it really freaks me all about and scares me.
Adam……..I agree with your comment above that many groups in this country are critical about the way things are done……even “bad mouthing” the entire process, and they would be jailed in many other countries for doing so, ie. Venezuala But. I have to agree with Judge V when he says that as much as we may hate the way this Berkeley thing has played out, it is still within their Constitutional rights to do so. According to him, they are simply excercising their rights to freedom of speech……..once you take that away, we become like a Venezuala…..or many other countries like it.
Avi, my friend please know that this old Marine/Soldier stands ONE HUNDRED percent with Israel. I am hopeful that when the time is right your govt will be able to hunt down the rest of the butchers of women and children. I do not have much time but if you could tell me where to get good info from Israel (most of the media in the US is pro terrorist or anti Israel) I for one would much appriciate it-remember I do not speak or read Hebrew so its gonna have to be in english. I still say the Israel man for man has the finest military in the world.
Berkeley, as a former jarhead I do not take offense at a bunch of dope smokin, long haired, maggot infested, commie pinko jerks showing their true colors. In fact I will bet that any young man that was seriously thinking of joining the Corps probably went downtown and calmly stepped over the unclean reeking bodies of the ‘protesters’ and laughed while they did it. I am even more sure the the Marine recruiters got a great laugh at the loosers that chained themselves to the door. Probably the best way to antagonize the burned out, welfare collecting rejects from the 60s is for the Marines and their proud volunteers to politely smile and tell the Code Pinkos that they ( the Marines) will proudly defend their right to protest…then quietly call in an air strike to napalm their worthless hides.
Isn’t this the greatest nation on earth… a bunch of crazies in the Peoples Republic of Ca. can peacably protest those who would kill or die for their freedom to do so? Yea there is a lot of double standards that come our way in life but as long as there is The Corps and the army, navy and flyboys there will always be time to try to put real justice back into America.
Good night all
Terri, have you heard about the CCSD / teachers locking the children up in in small, dark, windowless closets until the child relaxes to level that the teacher deems to be OK to release?
When Christina was in kindergarten her teacher called me at work and told me that as a courtesy she wanted to let me know that Christina was exceptionally active on that particular day, she then told me (not asked) that when she hangs up the phone she will hang a sign on Christina and have her sit in front of an assembly and would remain there for the rest of the day (it was Christina’s 3rd in school, begining of the year). I thanked her for her courtesy call, said a few things that even I was shocked that came out of my mouth then explained I would have an lawyer on her and CCSD so fast her head would spin. If they ever locked my child in a closet I don’t know how I would have reacted.
Avi, you’re making me very nervous, please be careful and pay attention to your surroundings.
Later Gators!
Adam get ready for some action today….other sites are staying stuff today as welll
DEBKAfile: Tehran, Damascus, Hizballah leadership believed coordinating retaliation for Mughniyeh’s death
February 13, 2008, 11:34 PM (GMT+02:00)
The Pajero jeep Mughniyeh drove alone to his death
The Pajero jeep Mughniyeh drove alone to his death
This is how anxious Western and Israeli counter-terror agencies interpret the muted responses to the killing of Imad Mughniyeh in Damascus Tuesday, Feb. 12. Iran, Syria and Hizballah are certain that the bomb planted in the master terrorist’s Mitsubishi Pajero in the heart of the Syrian capital was rigged by the Israeli Mossad. They are therefore most certainly setting up a major reprisal in the form of a terrorist hit or a military assault.
Wednesday night, all Hizballah’s top leaders went to ground. They even gave the mourning tent set up in the Shiite district of Beirut for their dead leader a wide berth.
Our sources report that the long-sought terrorist was finally despatched by a small explosive inserted between the driver’s seat and the back seats, which destroyed only one part of the vehicle. The front and rear remained intact. Mughniyeh was driving alone to a reception marking Islamic Revolution Day at the Iranian embassy in the Romana district.
DEBKAfile’s counter-terror experts note that the way the explosion was set up recalled the method used by the hit team which killed the Jihad Islami senior operative Ghaleb Ghali in Damascus in October 2004. Then, too, Syria held Israel responsible.
KT.. I couldn’t live in Bizerkeley either! *giggling*
They’d be protesting outside my house everyday.
Cindy Sheehan is playing a very dangerous game. I hope, for her own safety, that she doesn’t tick off the wrong person in another country. I was convinced last year that she was crazy, beyond mentally unstable, when she tried to run for Pelosi’s seat in San Francisco. (I think it was Pelosi’s seat). She needs to be careful now, because if the Dems don’t want her anymore she might seek out attention in foreign places where she shouldn’t be sticking her nose in.
“I am here to protest the trial of civilians in front of a military tribunal as this is a violation to international law,” said Sheehan, who gained fame in the U.S. for her sit-in outside President Bush’s Texas ranch following the death of her son in Iraq.
Kathy, Adam is right, he does a really good job at not revealing his political views. I understand the Fair and Balanced policy of FNC, that’s just one of things that differentiates them from the rest. I also appreciate why he stays away, but you know that is a very dangerous and yet fun category. All he would have to do is disagree with one of us and we’d jump all over him. I would get entertainment out of it, but the outcome wouldn’t be good hahahaha. It must be frustrating for him to see us post things that he disagrees with, or when we post something that’s not accurate.
I couldn’t live in Berkley either, I would become the poster child for all Conservatives. A picture would hang in all Republican political forums with a statement underneath that reads… This is what Not to do when you do not agree with a Liberal.
Maybe it’s nice to come and vent to others that feel the same way…
our politicians sure don’t listen to us.