March 8th, 2008 4:16 PM Eastern
More Behind the Scenes from Colombia
by Adam Housley
Here is a look at a rally for peace through the streets of Bogota. People actually rallied across the countryside. Those we spoke with expressed concern about Colombia’s leftist neighbors. This rally was to protest the innocent people either murdered or abducted here, I am told more than 750 are still held captive including 3 American contractors and a former Colombian Presidential candidate. Some in this crowd were not so welcoming, there were some socialists and anarchists dressed in black who felt we were imperialists for covering the stories here, doesn’t make much sense to me.
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Hi Adam,
Appeared to be peaceful marching…
We’re the photos of people victimized by FARC?
I don’t understand the socialist / anarchist position either…… They don’t support FARC, do they?
Are you on your way home?
Not on your way home yet — you are on with Jamie Colby!
they feel that the american news organizations that have covered their stories have only told one side of it, so they have no faith in our reporting. it’s nothing personal, adam… they dont expect us to understand what theyve been living with for almost 50 yrs. it’s sad. so many innocent ppl, so many children kidnapped and recruited, and no end in sight.
it’s a great thing that you and the crew are there. rock it out! im monitoring everything from here! RCN (colombian news station) FOX News, and the internet. i wish i was there! i should totaly be there..
Adam, just saw your live report on Bret Baier’s show again, excellent report! Good info.
Thanks for posting this video also, this was really good!
is good to see a clean site after gretawire’s filty language
this subject is quite interestsing!
DKE
dke… Adam has a great site! All interesting topics and the best behind the scenes info!
Welcome
Adam, now got to see you on Laurie Dhue’s show. That must have been a trip going up that mountain, even if that guy was telling you a while back it wasn’t safe, I’d still be looking over my shoulder anyway hahahaha
good reporting
Later-
These guys are pro-Chavez
The “Paramilitares” was created to fight guerrillas years ago, when weak governments were ruling Colombia. Chavez accuse the “paramilitares” of a right-wing guerrillas, when the reality is that people united to provide defense to themselves. The military helped those groups. Then, at certain point, the paramilitares movement derailed and entered the drug trafficking business.
Today, under Uribe’s government, the paramilitares are returning their weapons and returned to the civilian society.
Leftist groups still denouncing the paramilitares but in reality, these left-wing groups are paid by Chavez who continues to destabilize Uribes government.
This is very important for the American Media to understand this.
cheers,
-J
Let me define “weak governments”
Some governments, when fighting the FARCs and ELN, were accused of violating their Human Rights, to the point that they stopped the attacks and started a series of negotiations that only lead to more violence and unrest. The highest point in this process happened when Pres. Pastrana (1998 - 2002) gave FARC+ELN a huge chunk of Colombian territory as a DMZ (de-militarized zone)
The guerrillas then took that territory and instead of comply with any agreement, they created more violence, more narco-traffic and more civil unrest
This is another demonstration on how communist work: they lie, they kill and they create confusion.
Chavez (communist) strategy includes all of the above: support to the guerrillas, the public opinion and the media. And yes, he also hold and kisses babies and could be incredible charming on TV -
KT,
When I watch Laurie Dhue, no one else in the world exists…
-Rod-
Adam,
Colombians are tired of over 45 years of civil war. They are aware that the war is inflicted from abroad. They are conscious that Uribe is the answer and the hope to stop them. No wonder Uribe’s approval rate in Colombia is over 80%
The source of this attack is … Cuba.
Fidel Castro is the architect of all this mess.
They might call you “imperialist” but what few people know is that Fidel Castro has been exporting the socialist revolution since the early 60s in several ways and forms; music, arts, literature, politics, armed groups (guerrillas), comics, etc.
Fidel Castro’s influence is not limited to Colombia, actually, from Mexico to Argentina we have suffered the Cuban Imperial influence. Beyond Latin America, Castro exported his war to Mozambique, Angola , Guinea, Tanzania, etc.
Chavez is just another teenager who swallowed his influence, who dreamt with the revolution and being another Ché.
This is not a new story. It’s pretty old.
People just forget or simply ignore…
I’m a chicken.. I wouldn’t want to be there…
I think I’d be happy just sitting up in Beaver!
BTW - great reporting
you have been doing a great job reporting all about Venezuela and Colombia and neighbour Guyana
Thank you very much !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I follow your work and appreciate your courage in reporting from abroad ….. !!!
test test — had two incidents where the last thread failed to update upon comment over the last 12~16 hours. Here’s hoping things are fine now.
@Karen2
Forgive my lack of timeliness, please.
You had a question, I think, from the previous thread asking about Central American countries/leaders and who they supported during the crisis.
I have only a short list, most of the others are IHNC… I Have No Clue.
El Salvador: 9/10 pro Uribe. openly supportive except on basic sovereignty question.
Panama: 7/10 pro Uribe. sovereignty question and relations with Ecuador were the problems.
Mexico: 5/10 critical of both sides. issues with Colombia about killing Mexican nationals in the raid. issues with all parties about the drug trade.
Nicaragua: 0/10 ally Chavez. current leader D. Ortega desperately needs friends, especially socialist ones. May still not retain the office of President very long.
@Adam Housley
My compliments on getting more documentation out there on broadcast than just the “man-on-the-scene” work during the crisis. Things like the video of the march are invaluable in showing people a world away what is happening, and getting such sourced from a reputable member of the media profession is rare. My thanks, and one favor to ask:
Being that I am a bit “out of market” for any FOX affiliates, I have been using what little comes up on FOXNews video clips section (with the one exception of your Fox & Friends segment at the height of the crisis, which I slingboxed off a TiVo I can borrow ‘Stateside). Is there a master weblink that would allow a viewer to see the entirety of your reportage on (any) event? Perhaps an archive location that is available once the reports are history, not current media?
My thanks, and thanks again for having us here.
@All
Is there a master list of those kidnapped or captured by the FARC that shows gender?
Here’s the why: Chavez gave this in a speech today in Caracas (quote from Reuters)
“”From here I send a request to Manuel Marulanda. Manuel Marulanda, send us Ingrid. Send us Ingrid. On this International Women’s Day, I expressly ask you to do it,” Chavez said in a speech during a Women’s Day ceremony in Caracas.
“When you can, when the conditions make it possible, liberate Ingrid Betancourt. She’s the only woman who is still in the hands of the FARC. It doesn’t make sense to keep her in the jungles of Colombia,” Chavez said to a cheering audience of women, including Betancourt’s mother.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSN0838508520080309
…
…the only woman still held? really?
LDG–
And about 749 more left to go to be released ( three US contractors)- but I hope Ingrid gets released– If the US knows there are three contractors there being held captive, why not make some noise?
and thanks for answering K2’s question to me— I just woke up- and I came in here to turn off the computer and of course I had to peek!
I don’t think this was too cool– given after what just happened-
BOGOTA, Colombia — A stadium brawl at a soccer rivalry game left about 80 people wounded in the Colombian city of Cali late Saturday, 18 of them with stab wounds, emergency officials said.
Clashes broke out among America de Cali’s “Red Baron” fan club in the 82nd minute of the match with Deportivo de Cali and spread onto the field and around the Pascual Guerrero stadium.
Police fired tear gas as the brawlers lit firecrackers and tried to tear down fencing separating the stands from the field.
Eighteen people were stabbed during the melee, said Manuel Infante, spokesman for Cali’s Emergency Prevention Committee. They were treated at the stadium and taken to a local hospital. Another 60 suffered bruises and other minor injuries.
A young pregnant woman and three police officers were among the wounded, the Red Cross said.
Tensions flared over referee Wilman Roldan’s decision not to call a penalty kick against Cali. America protested the no-call, players traded blows on the field and America coach Diego Edison Umana also got into the fray, elbowed his Cali counterpart Daniel Carreno.
Cali Mayor Jorge Ivan Ospina called Umana “directly responsible” for the violence and said the stadium’s stands would be closed temporarily.
Umana had harsh words for the refereeing later in comments published on the Web site of El Tiempo newspaper, but said there was “no excuse” for his behavior.
“It’s my fault, and if I have to leave soccer I’ll go,” Umana said.
Fans of the two Cali squads have clashed frequently in the past, but not on such a level.
“This cannot happen again,” vowed Juan Carlos Abadia, governor of Del Valle department.
The chaos led Roldan to whistle an early end to the match, which Deportivo won 1-0 on a goal from defender Freddy Hurtado.
Chile was not supportive of Correa– also wanted peace– by the way– this is how I found out Chile had a woman President-
Adam–
thanks for sharing the peace rally video with us–
I hope you took pictures of Bogotá too– to share– kind of like your video of Venezuela at night-
Kumano Kuma-
Good afternoon to you–
I met someone yesterday whose father is German and his mother is Japanese– He wrote down a few words for me in Japanese– I have to find these- they are written on the back of my check book which is in my car (in the garage) so in a few hours, I will post them– and ask you about these– no expletives– (smiling for you)
see you in a few hours!
and good morning to the rest-
xxxxxx
Adam–
Have you noticed another nice person has joined your blog- LDG– He lives in Japan and has followed the Correa-Chavez-Uribe story closely and posted some great links and educated a few of us- He and Marie have had some great conversations going- I hope you see them after you have had some yasumu (rest)
In other words, please say hello!
Signed,
Your Personal Assistant and your agent (remember?)
Adam-
to Marie– you are so funny!
(moved this from the preceding post)
I sometimes wonder what part of their anatomy some of our “leaders” use to think with, and what part to sit on.
@Susan-AZ
good very early morning to you, and I will come back in later to catch up with you at a more decent hour.
re:”If the US knows there are three contractors there being held captive, why not make some noise?”
The U.S. government is rather hobbled by the facts that the contractors are considered by the FARC to be hostile combatants, and that they realized their value in exchange for FARC and FARC-related individuals arrested and imprisoned in the U.S. for drug trafficking or money-laundering.
re: Chile
Oh yes, they were supportive in the main, but my inquiry was as to Central American nations.
re:”Kumano Kuma-”
Heh, it is a cute name (why it got picked) but it is probably easier for me to spot “LDG” at the head of a post to get my attention.
more later, and thank you for the hat-tip to our good host.
re: the Soccer Riot story.
Not in any way related to international events, or even Colombia’s internal crisis. Likely the wire service picked up the keyword “Colombia” and ran the story without checking it for relevance.
This is not La guerra del fútbol writ anew. This is just an example of the thuggery that pervades much of sports fandom, not only in Latin America but widely in the world.
Good Day everyone:
I too encountered problems posting yesterday.
@Marie
Off-topic: I understand Susan-AZ forwarded a piece of e-mail from me, to you. Might you have received it?
@Adam Housley
Thank you kindly. I felt most welcome already, and will scrollback to see about comments.
“we ALL know you better keep Susan happy…”
words to remember. ((grin))
Brief review reveals this:
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Comment by Adam Housley
March 4th, 2008 at 12:13 am
LDG-
Good info and thanks for contributing to the discussion.
Adam
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Knew I felt welcome for a reason.
*giggling*
Yes, Susan is our little cheerleader….. she’s kind of like the little “mom” of the blog…
You know I love ya more than my luggage, Susan!
(remember what movie that line is from Susan??)
*holding hand up* oh oh oh
I know what movie!!!!!!!
‘Morning All.
ADAM—
I TRULY LOVE YOU!
LDG– Konichi wa- (Is that right?)
When did you send the email? Your today? which would have been my last night? Let me go check it out–
What I said- was you can email me and I will forward it to her– this way you too would now have the email addresses–
But up to last night when I went to bed, I had no emails from you but I haven’t checked this morning so I will–
I will wait for your answer-
——————————————————————————————————————
Terri-
no, what movie– sounds like something Cary Grant would have said-
Good Morning all….
LDG - thank you for the reply.
I don’t know which movie…..
Terri - i cheated — looked up the line…..
DUH! should have known.
@Susan-AZ
konnichi wa entirely suitable, were it to be daylight here. Hello and good morning, your morning.
re: e-mail
I have not sent you anything new in the last 24 hours.
I had sent you one piece of e-mail to confirm your address as you posted for me, and when Marie was dodging tornadoes a day or so ago you suggested you would just forward that piece of mail on to her to pass along my address.
@Karen2
A pleasure, as always.
LDG–
Are you still here?
I read your comments- in reference to the questions-
understood the reason of the three contractors– tit for tat? Is this what this is all about–
I think the incident at the soccer game was not cool– after all that happened, you would have thought these people would have been better behaved– but I have been at soccer games in Mexico City and it gets scary– they take the soccer games very seriously-
On a tragic note- a good friend of my parents was killed in one– Mexico had a victory and as they were celebrating and rejoicing in the streets, my parent’s friend was literally trampled over– I don’t remember his name but I am sure my brother does- I was about 14 when this happened-
China: Terror plots targeted Olympics, plane
Officials say they foiled bid to ‘sabotage the staging of the Beijing Olympics’
World Blog: Beijing, China
Nov. 2: In anticipation of the many tourists who will descend upon China next summer to attend the Olympics, Beijing residents are getting primers in English.
NBC News Web Extra
updated 4:31 a.m. MT, Sun., March. 9, 2008
BEIJING - Chinese police killed alleged terrorists plotting to attack the Beijing Olympics, while a flight crew managed to prevent an apparent attempt to crash a Chinese jetliner in a separate case just last week, officials said Sunday.
Wang Lequan, the top Communist Party official in the western region of Xinjiang, said materials seized in a Jan. 27 raid in the regional capital, Urumqi, had described a plot with a purpose “specifically to sabotage the staging of the Beijing Olympics.”
“Their goal was very clear,” Wang told reporters in Beijing. Earlier reports on the raid had made no mention of Olympic targets.
China has ramped up anti-terror preparations before the August Games. The nation’s top police official last year labeled terrorism the biggest threat facing the event.
The raid and the plane crash attempt were mentioned during a meeting of Xinjiang delegates to parliament’s annual session that focused in part on terrorism.
Emergency landing
The plane incident occurred Friday morning shortly after the China Southern Airlines flight left the far western city of Urumuqi at 10:35 a.m., said Nur Bekri, the governor of the Xinjiang region.
“From what we presently know, this was an attempt to crash the plane,” Bekri said.
Bekri said the crew responded and brought the plane to an emergency landing in the western city of Lanzhou at 12:40 p.m. with no damage or injuries. He gave few details.
Chinese forces have for years been battling a low-intensity separatist movement among Xinjiang’s Uighurs, a Turkic Muslim people culturally and ethnically distinct from China’s Han majority.
China says its main terror threat comes from the East Turkestan Islamic Movement, or ETIM. The group has been labeled a terrorist organization by both the United Nations and the United States. East Turkestan is another name for Xinjiang.
The group is not believed to have more than a few dozen members.
I like Kumano Kuma better– it is easier to remember than LDG– I don’t know why-
Let me go check my emails– I hope I didn’t delete it because I don’t open emails unless I recognize the nam
@Susan-AZ
“understood the reason of the three contractors– tit for tat? Is this what this is all about–”
The way the FARC got hold of the 3 contractors was actually dumb luck, but once they realized who they had, yes, a sort of tit-for-tat logic came to mind. It fits in with how the FARC and several other nasty groups in the world see having certain hostages… That they are worth a lot more as either pawns or shields than just as ransom candidates.
Sad to hear about your tragic story. My condolences.
@Susan-AZ
If you don’t find it, I will send a replacement.
http://www.elespectador.com/impreso/cuadernilloa/politica/articuloimpreso-raul-reyes-busco-uranio-rumania
Raul Reyes the terrorist kiled, traveled to Rumania looking for Uranium.
he had a VENEZUELAN PASSPORT.
Kumano Kuma-
nope! there are a bunch of emails but I didn’t see yours– I am hoping I didn’t delete it because I didn’t recognize it– please send again– and put in subject line– Kumano Kuma-
xxxx
Gordon Thomas, periodista irlandés, conoció informes de los servicios de inteligencia británicos que señalan que Raúl Reyes estuvo en Bucarest, con pasaporte venezolano, reunido con un peligroso terrorista. EXCLUSIVO PARA EL ESPECTADOR.
Agentes del M16, división de los servicios secretos de inteligencia británicos, establecieron que Raúl Reyes, comandante de las Farc, grupo narco-revolucionario, muerto en un bombardeo en su base de operaciones en Ecuador el sábado pasado, realizó una visita clandestina a Bucarest, capital de Rumania, para negociar la compra de una cantidad de uranio suficiente para construir una bomba sucia.
Un experto del Centro Británico de Energía Atómica en Harwell confirmó: “Una bomba sucia es un arma sumamente letal. Aunque no tiene el mismo impacto masivo que una completa explosión de kilotones, es relativamente fácil de construir y su detonación causaría un daño real y gran pánico”.
Con un nombre falso y un pasaporte Venezolano, Reyes llegó a Bucarest a mediados de enero para reunirse con un alto miembro del Sol Naciente.
La Orden del Sol Naciente es liderada por Semyon Yukovich Mogilevich, quien es descrito por la Oficina de Seguridad Británica como “uno de los criminales más peligrosos del mundo”. Mogilevich tiene una orden de arresto expedida por los Estados Unidos y otros países europeos. Sus principales negocios son la prostitución, las drogas y el tráfico de humanos.
Desde la disolución de la Unión Soviética, el Sol Naciente ha desarrollado lo que el reporte del M16 llama “una relación de trabajo con al-Qaeda”. Se sabe que la organización de Osama bin-Laden ha establecido “presencia en Venezuela y otros países sudamericanos gobernados por la izquierda populista, que se oponen a los Estados Unidos”, dice el informe. Fue la conexión entre al-Qaeda y el Sol Naciente la que alertó a los oficiales del M16 apostados en Bucarest de que las Farc estaban preparadas para comprar “una cantidad considerable de uranio para fabricar una bomba sucia”.
@Alfredo
I was wondering when confirmation of the passport would come out. Thank you.
@Susan-AZ
will resend in 1 minute.
@Susan-AZ
sent
Adam–
I received a very nice email from our friend Rebeca-
as Alfredo posted a link a few days ago– April 11- if all goes well- anti Chavez march– they are still in the works of getting the permission–
She mentioned she thought it would be nice for you to be there– now I have to switch hats here-
I don’t think you should go. Eva Golinger doesn’t like you
(Advice over with–)
I think Castro, Chavez, Correa, Ortega should all have a march of their own– they call all wear tin hats!
How long does it take? I have my email box open–
Kumano Kuma-
I just got it-
Regarding Alfredo’s post about Reyes fake ID and Venzuelan Passport:
The original report hit the private G2 newsletter (a paid analysis service) a few days back. Here is an open reprint of it from WorldNet Daily news’blog dated the 6th.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=58230
@Susan-AZ
“I just got it”
yay, technology still works.
Susan…how long does it take? it does have to travel 1/2 way around the world!
It took about ten minutes–
Patty-
and don’t forget the time difference too– good thing emails don’t take that into account- if this makes any sense :question:
Kumano Kuma-
thanks for sharing the article– wow! In Romania too-
and Uribe saved himself–
British agents also say they are satisfied Raul Reyes’ ambitions for a FARC dirty bomb targeted Colombia’s president, Alvaro Uribe, a close ally of both Britain and the United States
Marie–
if you are here– sent it your way–
And Monday is going to be an exciting day— the girls!
@Susan-AZ
another Off-topic, but one I think you (and maybe others) will enjoy. You and I spoke of my adopted hometown here before. Here’s the link to the sights of interest around this ‘burg:
http://www.city.tochigi.tochigi.jp/hp/menu000002000/hpg000001835.htm
*giggling*
STEEL MAGNOLIAS!
That was when Clairee was shoving Weezer off the bench… remember!
I loved that movie…
I’m so behind on this post… I need to go spend some time catching up… but getting on the treadmill first!
Terri-
I have to watch that movie again– I don’t remember!
Kumano Kuma–
I just opened the link and for those who do too– click on each picture of the homepage– the second and fourth one especially and many more come up- there is one page where there are drawings- click on those and real pictures come up-
Kumano Kuma- I am moving your link over to my side– and this way I don’t lose it and I can continue to look at the pictures as there are many of them-
some of these look like the structures in Bali– My daughter downloaded all her pictures from her latest travels and now I have them in my computer and a few on your link look like some of her pictures- When she gets back she is going to download all her pictures from Asia–
I can’t read the characters– but there are a couple structures there which I am curious as to the significance–
tochigi–horse chestnut– Hai?
@Susan-AZ
tochi = horse chestnut ki or gi = tree
…and that is also an example of how English and Japanese differ…
hai used as a question means “I didn’t get what you said”, which is not what you meant, I think.
We are getting better at these hours here– It is midnight there–
I have to leave for about twenty minutes– are you going to bed? This staying up at all hours will catch up– I know- and I bet I am much older than you are–
After seeing your wife’s blog and maybe reading more of your posts, I am not sure what your age is– at the most, I am going to pushm, 40’s– most-
so if you are gone–here is this– (from the very nice person I met yesterday- I mentioned him- Dad is German- mom- Japanese) I think I am reading this right-
Kun Bun Wa— good evening- but in your case, for right now, because you are going to bed would be- oyasumi nasai– and kun bun wa would be for like the introduction to the evening- Hai?
@Susan-AZ
re: “…which I am curious as to the significance”
there are 7 photos in the center of the page… left to right, 1,2,3; down a row 4,5,6; down a row 7…
which ones are you curious about? I’ll try to help explain.
LDG– There goes my whole yes lesson for yesterday– so if I want to say yes-just right it out as Hai- but no question mark at the end because then it changes the whole meaning?
but now I can use Hai with the question mark when I don’t get what you mean–
so let’s me get this right- Hai as is- means yes and Hai ? means I don’t get what you mean-
well you will probably being seeing me use Hai? meaning I don’t get what you mean a lot-
Let me go back– I clicked on the pictures so I will have to go back and I will be right back–
@Susan-AZ
time: It is 2:00 a.m. here now, well just after. I am obliged to be on-line for a bit on another matter so I can monitor here for at least a little while longer.
age: just turned 48 a couple months back.
evening greetings: konban wa … the same kon as in the daytime greeting. You should use this at first encounter in the evening or night time.
going to sleep: I’ll let you know when, with good warning, so we can wish each other a good rest. But not yet.
@Susan-AZ
If I inform you of something, and you wish to say a kind of yes, an affirmation, you use hai… no question mark.
If you don’t understand something I say, and would say “eh??” or “huh??” in English, you *can* use hai with a questioning tone… you could also just say “eh??”.
Like I tried to tell you yesterday: there is no direct equivalent to the English “yes” in Japanese. hai is as close as it gets, but not the same.
((laughs))
There is a recent American Beer commercial for (?) Bud Light, with “Girls love the foreign accent” as a theme tha has a priceless moment of the obviously Japanese ESL student being told to “Say Hi!”
For starters– when you open the link- the second picture– you click on that, and a structure comes up– when, where, how, and what?
Now when you click on the fourth picture– several like sketches coming up– click on the fourth sketch which looks like a boulder- what is this?
On the fifth sketch- which looks like a structure- click and two pictures come up– what are these or this?
LDG–
I am here to learn– so what is affirmative in Japanese– To much confusion with yes– but I can use Hai? when in doubt about something but I can yes the word for affirmative when I say yes-
@Susan-AZ
second picture: the festival cart museum building. click on it, see the building’s picture. below that are pictures of the ornimentation atop the festival carts. some of those lifesize dolls are several hundred years old.
-more-
there must be a lot of horse chestnut trees in Tochigi?
Happy birthday two months ago–
the fourth picture: Oohira-san (Mount Oohira) park area. the cute sketched icons all link to various facilities like picnic areas and overlook sites.
-more-
fifth sketch icon: The hexagonal temple building. a lovely but small buddhist-pattern temple building at the base of the ascent route to go to the real shrine up on the mountain… the buddhists always try to build on/adjacent to native holyground to claim legitimacy… long story there… mostly, we ignore them.
When we go off topic here– Adam calls it- digressing-
Over on your side of the world- Adam has been to Cambodia, Hong Kong, Thailand, Vietnam, China, South Korea-
I don’t see Japan– Adam needs to pay a visit there– so much technology and he loves gadgets- maybe he can do a story on Japan and technology-
By the way, I am his cartographer-
the second picture–
it didn’t dawn on me to click on the blue– how so cool is this? I see those dolls– they look like they are real!
@Susan-AZ
“I am here to learn– so what is affirmative in Japanese–”
the closest would be hai sou desu meaning roughly “yes it is” in English…
BUT
…there is *no* basic concept equal to a yes/no question in Japanese, so there is no direct equivalent to “yes”.
I would stick with “yes” and “yes?” here unless you have a whole lot of time and patience to learn the usage of hai in all its myriad applications.
on the home page– the 7th picture– is that like a hotel? for tourists-
@Susan-AZ
“When we go off topic here– Adam calls it- digressing-”
I’d call it that, on a good day. ((nods))
@Susan-AZ
“on the h