The “ruffles” (short drumrolls) and the “flourishes” (a bugle call) are generally played four times

I am still learning over here— this will become a ghost town thread–

LOL

Well crap I was wrong going up to the next thread.

Wow…we did it … a group effort for sure.

Jen, thanks for the mug.

WoooHooo
Congrats K2!!!!! (LDG doesn’t want the credit, he said so -
but I say way to go to LDG too) Here’s your prize, I get them free. lol http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii173/jlskylog/mug.jpg

Adam..that is cool about the kids I would guess that you spoil them terribly!!!

Ya I agree with Max…i would have never gone to read about military. And now i know “the rest of the story”…well sort of

What i love about Picture of the Day is that it gets us learning about things we normally wouldn’t bother with, and often they are really interesting.

That was fun ADam….thanks!!!

Way to go John and K2!!

Adam–

K2 guessed it last night– She find your coverage on Ford!

Comment by Karen2 (K2)
March 14th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
LDG — Adam was there!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,239959,00.html

How about this one?

Marines from 1st Battalion, 12th Marine Regiment fire 105 mm rounds from M101A1 Howitzers during a 21-gun salute honoring the President of the Republic of Korea, Roh Moo-hyun, as he arrived at the National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific (Punchbowl), July 5, to honor the fallen from the Korean War.

The President of the Republic of Korea, Roh Moo-hyun’s motorcade recieves a 21-gun salute upon arrival at the National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific (Punchbowl), rendered by Marines from 1st Battalion, 12th Marine Regiment July 5.

1st Lt. Marco le Gette, calls out orders to Marines from 1st Battalion, 12th Marine Regiment during the 21-gun salute for the President of the Republic of Korea, Roh Moo-hyun, as he visited the National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific (Punchbowl), July 5.

Marines from 1st Battalion, 12th Marine Regiment rendered a 21-gun salute to the President of the Republic of Korea, Roh Moo-hyun, as he visited the National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific (Punchbowl), July 5, to pay respects to fallen heroes of the Korean War.

HONOLULU (July 5, 2007) — Marines from 1st Battalion, 12th Marine Regiment rendered a 21-gun salute to the President of the Republic of Korea, Roh Moo-hyun, as he visited the National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific (Punchbowl), July 5, to pay respects to fallen heroes of the Korean War.

US Army Presidential Salute Battery
A speciality platoon of the 3rd US Infantry (The Old Guard), the Presidential Salute Battery is based at Ft. Myer, Virginia. Guns Platoon (as it is known for short) has the task of rendering military honors in the National Capital Region; these include: Armed Forces Full Honors Funerals; State Funerals; Presidential Inaugurations; full honors wreath ceremonies at the Tomb of the Unknowns in Arlington National Cemetery; arrivals of Heads of State at The Pentagon, and General officer retirements in the Military District of Washington (MDW), which are normally conducted at Ft. Myer. Guns Platoon has ten vintage World War II hybrid anti-tank guns; each of the guns has a 3-inch barrel which is mounted on a 105 mm Howitzer chassis.

The Vice- President gets 19?

Max–

I like my learning– all through mistakes!
I just read a whole article on the 21 gun salute–

The 21-gun salute honoring the President of the United States, like many American military traditions, appears to be another custom inherited from Great Britain. In early times, it was customary for a ship entering a friendly port to discharge its broadsides to demonstrate that they were unloaded; eventually it became a British practice to fire a seven-gun salute. The forts ashore would fire three shots for each shot fired afloat. The three guns fired on shore to one gun fired on ship had a practical explanation. In earlier days, gunpowder was made of sodium nitrate and was easier to keep on shore than at sea. When gunpowder was improved by the use of potassium nitrate, the sea salute was made equal to the shore salute. The use of numbers “seven” and “three” in early gun salutes probably was connected to the mystical or religious significance surrounding these numbers in many cultures.

Gun salutes continue to be fired in odd numbers, of course, and this is likely because of ancient superstitions that uneven numbers are lucky. As early as 1685, the firing of an even number of guns in salute was taken as indicating that a ship’s captain, master, or master gunner had died on a voyage. Indeed, the firing of an even number of salute guns at the coronation of George VI in 1937 was regarded by at least one observer as an “ominous” portent. Incidentally, the normal interval of five seconds in the firing of gun salutes likely is in order for the salute to have full auditory effect, and also to give the salute a more solemn character.

The United States presidential salute has not always been 21 guns. In 1812 and 1821 it was the same as the number of states, i.e. 18 and 24, respectively, which was also our international salute. After 1841 the President received a salute of 21 guns and the Vice President 17; currently the Vice President receives a salute of 19 guns.

There has evolved over the last 175 years or so a prescribed number of guns, set forth in various Army regulations, to be fired for various dignitaries in accordance with the perceived importance of their positions. On 18 August 1875, the United States and Great Britain announced an agreement to return salutes “gun for gun,” with the 21-gun salute as the highest national honor.

Today, a 21-gun salute on arrival and departure, with 4 ruffles and flourishes, is rendered to the President of the United States, to an ex-President, and to a President elect. The national anthem or “Hail to the Chief,” as appropriate, is played for the President, and the national anthem for the others. A 21-gun salute on arrival and departure with 4 ruffles and flourishes also is rendered to the sovereign or chief of state of a foreign country, or a member of a reigning royal family. In these ceremonies, the national anthem of his or her country also is played.

Incidentally, U.S. Naval Regulations require that a 21-gun salute be fired at noon on Presidents Day, Independence Day, and Memorial Day.

Max–

did you find it because of this: a M101 105 mm Howitzer ——Was this what was on the picture?
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I did learn, thanks to LDG, M101’s were used in WW11–M102’s in Vietnam/Korean war–
and this is all I know– LOL

Susan: i was busy in the day, so after my friend left i was checking out the blog, same time you emailed me.

They might do 21 gun salutes at the Pentagon, but that’s not really a tourist destination, so they’d more likely do salutes near the National Mall unless i related to the Pentagon.
I think they fired a salute at the Pentagon when Rumsfeld unveiled the 9/11 memorial there, but that’s probably one of the few times.

Hi Max–

That was posted yesterday when I was gone from here for a bit– good answer!!!!!!
I just went back and saw it– even though you posted the date and time– I must have missed it-

Camp Pendleton– oops!! far cry from the Pentagon–

Did you decide to come in and check after the email? Good thing-

Adam– Max’s answer– up above from mine– That is a good answer!!!!

They do 21 gun salutes at the Pentagon too, right?

Susan: don’t forget i first posted my guess in this comment

Comment by Max
March 14th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Jen: by knowing what type of ammunition it is means we know what would fire it, to give some idea of where it is.

Maybe it was at the Iwo Jima 60th Anniversary held at Camp Pendleton, CA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:M101-105mm-howitzer-camp-pendleton-20050326.jpg

Maybe the Marines in the photo were using the actual round photographed!

Rod–

the hummer story is cute– I had a hummingbird, whom I haven’t seen for awhile, who would come up to my face when I would sit outside– These should be coming back– they love to suck my lavenders I have outside–

I like your answers– LOL–

I just left my email side– I just signed a petition to call off the annual Canadian seal hunt they are going to start—-

I sent you all some jokes too– LOL

Patty–

I don’t think I even came up with Pearl Harbor– it would be you and Jen–

Adam– what about Max’s Pentagon guess?

Well all– time to go– and take care of Ken and so on!

xxx

Clinton’s Bad Taste Inn

Great names for the Clinton’s home.

Rod, your is great too.

Clinton’s the Wizard of Is

I kinda like the Clinton Compost…those were good susan!

Jen…Susan…if it’s pearl harbor….you gonna share the “invisible” with me?
Comment by Patty
March 14th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
oh oh
what was adam did with a ship in hawaii

pearl habor anniversary date????

K2,

Indeed. I’m glad my kidneys are still working. For a few days they shut down.

Susan,

Yup, color, but in this case the male was easy to ID as his neck spot was so small, obviously a chick from last year. In his case it was just a vertical red slash whereas a female’s would be black. When he’s an adult his entire neck and chin will be black except for a red horizontal ring at the bottom of the black. On both, when they spread their tail feathers there’s two horizontal white stripes. The Blackchins are also probably THE most curious of the hummers when it comes to people. They’ll get right up into your face, inches away, just to check you out for no good reason that I can tell. I’ve had them do it to me walking down the street even. -Rod-

K2–

I wonder if Adam can cover the Olympics? He has asthma– I don’t know about the air–

But it sure would be cool if he could go and give us his “vista” on Beijing—

When the Olympics were held in Mexico City, the smog was bad then– compared to Beijing’s and Mexico City’s, I wouldn’t know– plus Mexico City has a high altitude, so I am sure some of the players had a hard time breathing–

I just got this in my e-mails– for fun-

The Jayne Carroll Show is a political talk radio program that airs daily in the Portland, Oregon, metropolitan area…
Carroll asked her audience to come up with an official name for the Clinton $1.7 million house in Chappaqua, New York.

Carroll’s call-in contest required the names to be in relative good taste, to be original, and to capture the essence of one or both of the Clintons. The response was overwhelming! Some names nominated for the Clintons’ New York house included:

Perjurers’ Palace
HillBilly Villa
The House of Bill’s Repute
Drawers Downs
Cheatem Estates
Sin Simeon
The Knee Pad
The White Trash House
The Blight House
The Panderosa

Liars’ Lair
Bill & Hill’s Bribe & Breakfast
The Clinton Compost
Dogpatch on the Hudson
The Hen House
The Out House
The Love Shack
The House of Seven Felonies
Motel Sex

But the clear, hands-down winner was - DISGRACELAND

Susan, Olympics start Aug 8 thru Aug 24. Gonna be a hot time in the city…..

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200306/30/eng20030630_119135.shtml

Rod - OMG! 190’s! Glad to hear you are doing better.

Atlanta may sound better right now…but, oh that humidity in the summer…..

Susan, will have to go check on the start of the Olympics. Have you seen any of Steve Harrigan’s reports from China this past week? Huge smog problem - makes Los Angeles look like they have clear blue skies. Athletes are very worried about the air quality. I heard one runner is refusing to go due to the air quality (can’t remember what country he is from)

How can you tell the difference between the male and female? Color?

Susan,

No, I’m ok today. BP is just a tad high, mid 140’s. This scar in my neck is like a blood pressure cuff. I feel the changes, big time and in turn that scar acts sort of like a carotid massage. It can be dangerous. But it’s nothing like the 190’s I was hitting last week. No worries. -Rod-

K2,

I’ve been elbowing a friend in Hotlanta, telling her I’d gladly trade places with her, tornados and all. That’s actually true. In LA, the only time it rains is when it’s cold. It’s really disgusting.

FL, had I been really sick, I wouldn’t have replied, and you were NOT bothering me. Same answer on that
Jen, I saw my first Blackchinned last week followed by another a few days ago, so the migrations have started. Oddly it was a female I saw first, then a male. Usually the males come in first to start staking out territory. The 26th is my BD -Rod-

K2–

I am reading some of those articles on your link–

Four killed, 215 hurt in blast
1 hour ago

A massive explosion at an Albanian army ammunition dump near Tirana killed at least four people and injured 215, including many children
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I am going to put Mary Poppins on– this news thing is too crazy–

where is Avi today? Avi– how is it going in your side of the world?

Rod–

Are you ill today? that sucks– I know the feeling– except mine is just a cold!

K2,

It doesn’t seem like the IOC is getting nervous to me. According the article I read on FOX, they’re just sticking their heads in the sand. And here I thought that the Olympic games were all about setting aside of national differences:

The United States and other governments have urged China to show restraint on the protesters, though International Olympic Committee President Jacques Rogge deferred, saying he didn’t have details.

“It is not our job,” Rogge, the IOC president, told reporters while visiting Puerto Rico. “We are not an activist organization.”

K2-

Ace Ventura Pet Detective
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Yeah- that guy– I got my words mixed up– dyslexia, maybe?

When you come back, Jen–

chicken hawks???? You know when that bird flew away with his meal this morning, I thought of Jeepers Creepers– (I swear I did)

You can have the Veteran’s prize if it is this– I was just guessing and you were thinking- big difference between throwing spaghetti and cooking it–

K2–

A few days ago, there was an article about China wailing and bad mouthing the US off saying we are in violation of human rights and basically we should mind our own business– Doesn’t this training start in August? They better get their chara together– too much animosity for a pleasant Olympics!

OOPS– whatever is left over?

We need to get your answers in one post so Adam sees them all–

Jen—

thanks for the site– the pin head one is the one I wanted to order last week when he first advertised it– and I couldn’t find the site– I am going to order the navy blue one– I like navy– I think the t-shirts are cool–

I still think your Pearl Harbor one is a good answer– Even Adam has a Pearl Harbor charity thing going–

who all did the Ronald Reagan one? Kathy Texas- Jen- K2 ??

Max has the Pentagon–

I have whatever his left over- LOL

Sunshine–
Have fun at Breckenridge. My son went last year - he’s a snowboarder. He had a blast– But he said the best part of the trip was the snowmobile rental day they did.
Maybe you’ll want to try that out.
dinner time…see you later.

Adam where’s a hint or a star for someone?

Looks like the International Olympic Committee is getting nervous about the China / Tibet unrest….

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8VE054O1&show_article=1

I am still trying to figure out why China was awarded the Olympics in the first place…..

Susnhine–

I don’t know how to snow ski— I tried it once in Minnesota– ha! big joke there–

Here is Adam’s new map– but Tahiti is missing from the map - they don’t have that as a place-

http://www.travbuddy.com/widget_map_display.php?id=2683175

Susan, well, if Adam is going to visit Wisconsin, he can certainly stop by Minnesota!

Ace Ventura Pet Detective - good one….

Sunshine - i like you idea - ‘where we want Adam’ to visit……

Rod, didn’t realize you weren’t feeling well. Sorry to hear. and to think…I bothered you with a problem when you were sick.
All -
I hope those of you who are complaining of the snow and winter live near CO. We will be flying there in a couple weeks to do some skiing!!!!!!!! I can NOT wait!!!!!!!! We have been saving up for this trip. Been to Utah once to ski but then tried CO and haven’t been any where else. We love the powder! Went to Steamboat Springs - beautiful and Breckenridge - also beautiful. We are going back to Breck again!
Bring on the snow!!!!!! (sorry guys - I’m selfish) wink, wink
If it’s sunshine and warmth you want….come on down! We got it!

Greetings all–
FL Sunshine
(sorry Adam) Bill O has been advertising shirts cut for women …
http://www.billoreilly.com/c/The-Bill-OReilly-Store-T-shirts/3/102.html
I know not what we really want, but maybe someone will get jealous if we all say we are going to get one.

Susan- We have what we call Chicken Hawks here. I watch closely for them when the Chihuahuas are out. Had a neighbor who had a Yorkie that mysteriously disappeared one day.
So you said Vet’s Day already; ok sorry. If you get the invisible prize for that will you share? LOL.
I don’t remember that post from him on Nov 12th, that is when I was vacation in Tucson and pretty new to the blog, so I don’t know what the pictures were.

Patty- I think my posting problem was a result of the huge link I put it that had three lines to it, and until that cleared it wouldn’t let me do anything, but none of the others showed up??

K2- you are sweet-thanks for cheering me on.
Rod- I think it will be about 6 weeks until the hummers arrive. Last year first sighting was April 26th-I can’t wait!

Hi Patty - yep. big mistake. just wanted to post a question to the candiates (i chose energy ) and all a sudden bad bad bad bad racist comment.

But, as you all know, I am a slow learner - and keep going back for bashing

Hey Rod, glad to hear you are doing better. Winter! Ugh. So tired of winter….but we have been above freezing for a week now. Went for a walk outside today! Snow is rapidly disappearing. Yeah.

Hi - had to go start dinner….will go back and catch up. be right back…

Sunshine–

blush–thank you– I think it would be fun– I am such a natural at it– I think it is because I am interested in everyone’s story— LOL–

There was a mean lady there who made a comment about me being sick and getting her sick– I told her not to worry– I had already contaminated the building the day before when I came in to check the hours of this tax thing– LOL– I am taking Azithromycin tablets– very strong antibiotic- I can’t get Ken sick– his blood sugar will soar with the eagles–

On the good side– I am getting enough back to pay for Tomasa’s surgery which she will be having in the near future– Thank you IRS– (electronically deposited in my account–all for $15.00)

I had to go look for the nine states Adam hadn’t been to- I could only remember five of them–
He needs to go visit Carrie in Wisconsin– she met him when he played ball–

K2,

Doing better, thanks. I did some running around earlier today and got home just before winter blew back in on us. I was really hoping we were done with it. And you? -Rod-

FL…i would bet that FOX would pay me NOT to wear a girl cut t-shirt!!! *LMAO*

Hi all. *waving*
There is no way i can post to each like K2 did, she is so talented! *L*

Wow…. bird dahmer, yikes!

K2…yep, i tried that yesterday as far as Gr e t a’s…mistake i wont make again anytime soon.

No adam hu? he really is teasing us!
Kathy..i doubt your page is banned, everyone else’s goes through. I havent had probs posting. but i wasnt here, cept the hours at work.

Jen ..did you restart your puter and that helped with being able to post?

Susan AZ - here’s an idea…..let’s make a map of where we want Adam to come!!!

Susan AZ - I’ve never met you but I’d much rather watch you interview people than Barbara Walters. ha ha! Can’t stand to watch her!

Adam - maybe someone is trying to sabotage your blog. I was unable to post a reply for over 24 hours and I notice there are many others who couldn’t post as well. hmmmm could it be a jealous fellow fox member? As you mentioned you do have one of the busiest blogs!
Regarding the t-shirts….I want one!!!! I have been trying to get someone at FOX News to listen to me for years about making a girl cut t-shirt. Don’t suppose you can do anything about that can you? Adam Housley on a girl cut shirt. HOT! I am a petite person and don’t really like regular t-shirts. I even begged the F&Freinds crew to get one made….I received no comment. Get -r- done Adam!

I need to do Adam’s map again–

I had my taxes done just a bit ago too– at the Community Center across the street since my job gave me a voucher to have the taxes done at $15.00– the guy who did my taxes was pretty cool- First he is 73 and looked like he was about 60– and me, Susan, with all the questions had to ask about his life– He was a Project Engineer for the scientific experiments on the Apollo–

I should have been one of these interviewers who has to know all the details of someone’s life– WA WA Susan Walters!

K2–
Actually I call it a murder scene wtih a bit of Jeffrey’s touch– I woke up this morning and I saw this huge bird in the back yard eating something– (another bird) It was disgusting– and as I got to the patio door, he picked up his cadaver and flew away– but there were feathers everywhere– It has been roped off as a crime scene– I am waiting for Pet Ace Ventura to get here-!!!!

Greta’s– I love Greta- I just don’t post as often because I see too much bickering- and name calling–

Hello All….

I was out for a bit, after dropping in on Greta’s blog….what a mistake. I challenged someone on a racist comment and while I was gone, they stole my name and made more racist comments! Hmmmmmmmmmmm - a few nasty people sure can ruin things…..

Anyway, glad to be back here.

Rod, Hello! How are you? Better I hope. Coma boy - too funny.

Susan, didn’t know you had a national geographic wild life documentary happening in your yard!

KT - Yes, the fall-out from Rev. Wright is not going away any time soon. I have seen posts all over the place where people are rethinking their support of Obama.

Jen - I agree - hmmmmmmmm since Adam now knows I will look for his photos!

Kathy - your blog is in my favorites. In case some of us don’t have it saved, you could occasionally post the link.

Did i miss anyone?

oops- Bird Dahmer’s mess– or bird aka Dahmer–

I just cleaned up bird’s Dahmer’s mess in the back yard– there were feathers everywhere!

Jen–

I think it your Pearl Harbor answer– Adam has memorial pictures of WW11–

Coma boy has no damage? This is good– he could always plea- I don’t remember!

kt–

Obama stammered too much when explaining his opinion on that contraversial Jeremiah– As Brit and his panel last night said, there is no way, since 9-11 Obama could have missed this man’s hatred for the US–

Red Eye had fun with it too– Church is to share the world of love, not hate–

I stopped going to one Church because I thought the Pastor was too much believing he was the God– and it bothered me– Just that made me stop going– so I have a hard time believing Obama’s stammered statements–

Boy Atlanta is having a rough old time! Glad to be here in AZ–

K2,

Coma-Boy has apparently been talking to investigators. Of course they have no interest in telling US what he’s saying. -Rod-

Jen–

I posted March 14th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
21 Salute—

Veteran’s day?
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Beat you to it–
The USS Oklahoma also got the 21 Salute– but I don’t think Adam covered that– LOL

okay if I delete website I can post. I am on my way to p/u my mom. I will try to post later. And I my site is banned if I can not include it in my information.

And I listened carefully to Obama’s statement, sometimes he was definate in denouncing what the pastor said, but then he would through in things like, well, I only heard a few times him talk like that and since he only counseled me on faith issues and he is retiring…. it hasn’t been problematic.

If he can’t stand up to his pastor on important issues, then how can this guy stand up to terrorists?

Susan, you probably read the Pelosi stuff already.. check back to see if any new stuff is added, she irks me to no end!

K2.. the heat is on Obama now, I don’t know how this will affect his campaign. if they were dopey enough to vote for him to begin with then they might blow this one off. I wish it was Hillary in the lead, I think we have a chance of beating her.

Anyone know how many states are left to get delegates from?

Susan… have heard any details on him yet about any brain damage

K2.. they said the FBI is asking him wuestions, but also have heard any more on it

this will be interesting to put the puzzle pieces together

Today’s answer—
Veteran’s Day Salute — picture taken in Washington DC.
That’s all I know.
See Adam’s blog entry of Nov. 12th. The photos are missing………
signed - Hmmmmm

That warm air Obama is feeling is the press starting to breathe down his neck……

Wow - ricin coma guy wakes up! Do you think he will talk or plead the 5th?

WASHINGTON — Senator Barack Obama said Friday that he had made repeated lapses of judgment in dealing with an indicted Chicago real estate developer, Antoin Rezko, and acknowledged that Mr. Rezko had raised more money for his political campaigns than he had previously disclosed.

KT–

I need to turn the tele on– Does he have any brain damage– he has been in a coma for a month-

I want to read your Pelosi info– I can not stand that lady–

Obama is getting to be on my- I don’t like list– I can not believe he has been a member in that chruch– with Jeremiah–all this time- Jeremiah should be on the racist list!

Kathy Texas-

MISSION, Texas – As the group nears a campground after the day’s 12-mile march against a wall at the U.S.-Mexico border, a red-cheeked man yells out of his vehicle: “Stop the drugs! Build the fence!” But all along the three-county route of the march, voices against the fence have dominated the discussion. His cry serves as a punctuation point here, where drug-related violence across the border has become all too real.

Hey the guy who had the ricin and was in a coma, woke up! Now I hope the media gets the details

Susan I just heard about that… I have an entire category dedicated to Nancy Pelosi, I’m a bit obsessed about that woman! That’s going to be the next Items of Interest

I know how I can make some money-

Colombia has decided to pay a leftist rebel $2.5 million for killing his leader, said Defense Minister Juan Manuel Santos Friday.

Pedro Pablo Montoya, who last week killed Ivan Rios, a leader in the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, surrendered to authorities before officials decided that he could collect on the bounty for Rios, El Tiempo reported online.

Marie–

Pelosi is trying to stop the free trade from happening with Colombia–

k2… an email linking my site to pork busters? … hahahaha I end up all over the place. I didn’t get an email like that! I’m jealous

Alfredo–

I just saw this one-

The Associated Press
March 15, 2008
Caracas, Venezuela (AP) _ - Hundreds of protesting steel workers clashed Friday with police and National Guard troops who repelled them with tear gas and rubber bullets, a union leader said.

The violence erupted during a work stoppage at Sidor steel plants in the eastern state of Bolivar.

“We have more than 10 colleagues hurt,” union leader Jose Rodriguez told reporters. He said he was injured by rubber bullets that hit him in the head and the leg.

Police and National Guard officials reached by phone declined comment.

The 80-hour work stoppage that began Wednesday is the fifth of the year, with workers demanding better salaries and benefits. Workers plan to return to work on Monday but say they may hold more protests to press their demands.

Some 5,400 laborers are employed by Sidor, as well as some 9,000 contractors.

Sidor’s parent company, Luxembourg-based Ternium SA, is controlled by Argentine-Italian conglomerate Techint Group.

Ternium owns 60 percent of Sidor, while the Venezuelan government holds 20 perce