And she also had control on the F-16’s–

LDG-

I finally got smacked on the head about my daughter— her attiitudes of her persona-

When I ask her about the times in her Air Force career, she just clams up- She will drop maybe a comment if the conversation is just casual-

She worked with the outgoing of missiles- I think she thinks indirectly she may had something to do with killing- hence, her adamant vegan diet- her now wanting to go to Africa and save the country- etc-

She does have scarring– She didn’t directly point the weapon, but she indirectly helped- so she hates what the military does- And now I know why she suffers her anxiety!

Trust me– she is full of anxiety– and now, I think we can talk better next time- as I think I can probably understand her–

thanks to you!

xxx

OK–

I became engrossed here– It is definitely nite to me!

see you in a few!

xxxx

the two who wanted the Treaty of Versailles enforced was US and Japan-

WOW– off topic!

Going back to many, many comments about Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia– in another quiz question– I just found the answer-

Summary
Self-determination was point 10 of Wilson’s Fourteen Points. Wilson wanted to re-draw the frontiers of eastern Europe so that races ruled themselves. In some ways, self-determination was achieved. The Treaty of Versailles created Poland by taking West Prussia from Germany. It also created the new nation-states of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. The Treaty of Saint Germain created Czechoslovakia and the Treaty of Trianon created Yugoslavia. In all, nine nation states were set up.

However, the Big Three did not allow the defeated countries self-determination. Germans found themselves living in Poland, Lithuania and Czechoslovakia, and Anschluss with Austria was forbidden. Bulgaria and Turkey also lost land. In the new countries (especially Poland, Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia), were ‘enclaves’ of minority races. Also, France and Britain did not allow colonies self-determination, and German colonies and the Turkish empire became mandates.

The Treaty of Versailles–

for starters– a lot of land was lost—- Germans were not happy– moving on to WW11-

League of Nations–

let me read this more tomorrow– Stepwise–

I need to connect the dots!

I will figure this out– of course with you around! (sending you a wave)

xxxx

LDG–

Time to threadjack–

this one is not doing well at all!!! Which one so I can finish this exercise tomorrow? I can’t even see my posts go through without waiting! Script keeps interrupting–

Will check back in about six hours!

xxxx

I meant to say– what I posted above– as I didn’t write the questions– You did!

You have the right treaty (Versaille, of 1919~, ended WWI) for the answer to Bonus (2). The key to what you need to write is compare the relationship after Treaty of Portsmouth, 1905, with what became of that relationship after the Versaille negotiations. Do that, and you’ll pretty much have it done… but re-read the question to be sure,

Bonus (1): What landmark agreement regarding Immigration is in part attributed to that relationship *at the time* of this cited Nobel Peace Prize award?

Gentlemen’s Agreement-

Bonus (2): What later treaty negotiation is said to have squandered that same relationship and led to an unfortunate change of world-view by the government and common populace of Country #1?

***

LDG—

I am headed to bed– What I just wrote above is what I am going to work on- Stepwise-

*”and what does it imply about what is learned *currently* in the education system of the country of the awardee vs. in Country #1?”

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ok– we will leave this as how I have it — so I can come back and tackle this!

xxxxx

@KC-Fresno

found your post to me over there… hehhehheh, Patty fell for it too. Birds of a feather?

ok, no more posting by me here until somebody tries to wrap the exercise question’s last elements. I don’t want to make this page more unstable (software-wise) than it already is.
((departs, will be back later))

just for you ldg!
click my name!

@KC

ok, let me go hunt up your note. I’ll remember “Border Battle” as a good next place to go.

@Patty

Yeah yeah, I know. People do like them… but most forum software lets you disable them. Of course most forum software lets you do things like edit a post you made (within a brief time of posting) or at least see it a preview before final posting.

As to grouchness…
vat? You are not to be liking my grouch? bah!

((grin))

ldg, if you hold your cursor over the smiley faces, it shows the text that makes them show up.
then you can avoid them if you choose.

i sorta lik’em, dont be such a grouch! *LOL*

and yep….the script errors are back ;(

LDG

Good morning to you

I agree with you that it is time to move from this thread – Takes forever to load and also I am getting the script thingy too.

Maybe, when your question is completely answered by all, you can threadjack “Border Battle” posted on 4/27/08. It only has 42 posts on it and nobody has posted for awhile. Just a thought.

I left you a little note on another thread (still laughing at myself)

grrrrr…

WHERE ARE ALL THESE USELESS EMOTOCONS COMING FROM?

…and we are getting script errors on this page now too.

Time to wrap this up, folks, and move on to threadjack another place to play.

Follow-up on sourcing, as I was curious where you got your quotes…

@Susan-AZ

Did you notice I paid no mind what so ever to the quote you copied in your 2:32 am post, from Answers.com?

That is because other than the raw facts of dates, any quotation from works by Hugh Bicheno should be scrutinized most carefully as he makes his living as a Revisionist. Most other sources, including the one paraphrased by the Wikipedia entry, do not attribute *any* anti-Roosevelt feelings by the Japanese at the time, nor any treatment of them as inferiors. Bucheno may have just made it up, or may have been attempting to come to terms with the hostility felt *about the final Treaty of Portsmouth* in newspapers and opinion at the time in Japan. (The Treaty awarded no tribute, or monetary compensation for the war, to Japan. Only territory was exchanged. Being that Japan was nearly bankrupted by the cost of the war, the lack of tribute was felt to be an insulting result. Not that 1906 Russia *had* any money to make tributary payments…)

Just for your information.

@Susan-AZ

This most all looks *very* good! Let me go over fine points, noting the time of you post for reference:

2:32 am — Bonus (1) — CORRECT!, and very complete with your later notes.

2:33 am — off topic — that, my friend, would be “venue of”, rather than “venue at” (or the far more precise “venue within”, which I *should have* used for greater clairity). You are most correct on the general legal use of “venue” and its origin. As a phrasal verb it requires a bit more careful read, however.

2:57 am — There is, within this, a part of the answer to more of the Main Question(s) — Look at the last paragraph of your quotation and you will see “President Theodore Roosevelt, who had a positive opinion of Japan, …”

3:09 and 3:14 am — excellent followup on Bonus (1), showing that by 1924 the good relationship between the Governments of two decades before had gone sour…

…So what matter (HINT: It happened during the negotiations for a widely International Treaty) *did* occur that soured the relationship and (quoting Bonus (2)) “…led to an unfortunate change of world-view by the government and common populace of Country #1?” <–note we now know Country #1 is Nippon, aka Japan.

***
@ALL
Summary so far. Here’s what you (all) have gotten:

*”What Nobel Peace Prize awardee…?” — Teddy Roosevelt
*–you also can say Country #1 = Japan, as you located the park that contains the venue.
*”What … imply about the relations *at the time*…” — they were very good, and mutually respectful in the highest. Teddy Roosevelt is still one of very few American Presidents well known and liked in Japan today.
*”and what does it imply about what is learned *currently* in the education system of the country of the awardee vs. in Country #1?” — …this is still unanswered…
*Bonus (1) — The Gentleman’s Agreement
*Bonus (2) — …this is still unanswered…

***
off-topic but fun stuff, @Susan-AZ:

3:34 am — Frank Armitage — I actually have no idea. Within the TR Lounge are a set of Portraits (or reproductions thereof) of the man at various stages of his life, but I don’t know who painted them. The entire bar is just a supremely cool little place, BTW. It is up inside the replica Steamship, which is *stunning*, and the Lounge is a glorious homage to Victorian/Edwardian styles. Also, the display cases include a bunch of historical items and replicas including a copy of the signing document of the Treaty of Portsmouth, 1905.

3:38 am — Disney Sea is next door to… — They, and a whole lot of parking, shopping, and hotels, are all located within the “Tokyo Disney Resort”, which is within the city of Urayasu, in Chiba Prefecture just to the east of Toukyou (Tokyo). So you can walk between the park entrances if you have time, grab a Resort Bus, or take the Monorail.

Ok, luck on wrapping this question up, as you (all) have gotten much closer to done!

From what I read– DisneySea is next door to Disneyland there-

Did Frank Armitage do some murals at Disney Seas in Toukyou? Are any of them of Teddy?

off topic!

and the 1924 , the policy became law. An immigration quota was set for each European country. Germany and Britain had large quotas. However, the allotments for countries such as Greece and Poland were extremely limited. In addition, all Asian immigration was ended.

The Gentlemen’s Agreement was annuled or revoked– however, you want to say it by:

The Immigration Act of 1924, or Johnson-Reed Act, including the National Origins Act, Asian Exclusion Act, (43 Statutes-at-Large 153) was a United States federal law that limited the number of immigrants who could be admitted from any country to 2% of the number of people from that country who were already living in the United States in 1890, according to the Census of 1890. It excluded immigration of Asians. It superseded the 1921 Emergency Quota Act. The law was aimed at further restricting the Southern and Eastern Europeans who were immigrating in large numbers starting in the 1890s, as well as prohibiting the immigration of East Asians and Asian Indians

@all-

The immediate cause of the Agreement was anti-Japanese racism in California, which had become increasingly xenophobic after the Japanese won the Russo-Japanese War. On 11 October 1906, the San Francisco, California Board of Education had passed a regulation whereby children of Japanese descent would be required to attend racially segregated separate schools. At the time, Japanese immigrants made up approximately 1% of the population of California; many of them had come under the treaty in 1894 which had assured free immigration from Japan.

In the Agreement, Japan agreed not to issue passports for Japanese citizens wishing to work in the continental United States, thus effectively eliminating new Japanese immigration to America. In exchange, the United States agreed to accept the presence of Japanese immigrants already residing in America, and to permit the immigration of wives, children and parents, and to avoid legal discrimination against Japanese children in California schools.

There was also a strong desire on the part of the Japanese government to preserve the image of the Japanese people in the eyes of the world: Japan did not want America to pass any legislation prohibiting Japanese immigrants, similar to what happened under the Chinese Exclusion Act. President Theodore Roosevelt, who had a positive opinion of Japan, accepted the Agreement as proposed by Japan as an alternative to more formal, restrictive immigration legislation.

@LDG–

(shaking my finger at you)—-Venue at a Disney theme-park? venue is location and this was part of your question!!!!!!! a place where in which the alleged events take place!! Implies a place where people come to — Latin- to come- Normally, you would see this more in law but you put it in your question-

So Max answered a part of your question–

Susan-AZ

“you answered more pondering but if you had said the location was correct”

There is no part of the question that asks the location of the theme park by city. Note I didn’t answer about your inquiry as to it being part of “American Adventure”, either.

Bonus 1—— Gentlemen’s Agreement-

Teddy’s role in mediating the end of the 1904-5 Russo-Japanese war, for which he won the 1906 Nobel Peace Prize. The Japanese correctly perceived his prejudice against them, strengthened when he restricted ‘oriental’ immigration in 1907.

Roosevelt promised to do something about Japanese immigration. During 1907-1908 the two countries reached an understanding, which came to be called the Gentlemen’s Agreement. In return for the lifting of the school segregation order, the Japanese government agreed not to issue passports to Japanese laborers wanting to enter the United States. The Gentlemen’s Agreement effectively curbed Japanese immigration, but it did not put an end to state laws discriminating against Orientals. This situation was greatly resented in Japan, where the people assumed that all Americans regarded them as inferior.

@Susan-AZ

“you answered more pondering but if you had said the location was correct”

There is no part of the question that asks the location of the theme park by city. Note I didn’t answer about your inquiry as to it being part of “American Adventure”, either.

By the way, none of “Tokyo” Disney Resort is actually *in* Toukyou (Tokyo). Moreso, even within the Resort area, Disneyland and DisneySea are two seperate areas.

@Max

Incompleteness is not helping your cause, and in the case of those Bonus attempts, neither is correct. Here’s the question again:

***
What Nobel Peace Prize awardee is also honored in an Attraction/Venue at a Disney theme-park?

What does that imply about the relations *at the time* between the individual so awarded and the country (hereafter referred to as Country #1) in which the theme-park is located, and what does it imply about what is learned *currently* in the education system of the country of the awardee vs. in Country #1?

Bonus (1): What landmark agreement regarding Immigration is in part attributed to that relationship *at the time* of this cited Nobel Peace Prize award?

Bonus (2): What later treaty negotiation is said to have squandered that same relationship and led to an unfortunate change of world-view by the government and common populace of Country #1?

***

The only part of the exercise that is in hand right now is: “What Nobel Peace Prize awardee…?” –”Teddy Roosevelt”.

The mention of the Treaty of Portsmouth of 1905 by K2 that you echoed might be part of the next section of the main question(s), but is not part of Bonus (1).

*****
off-topic but FYI:
Your comment: “…Southern Sakhalin to the USSR” *can not* be correct about ANYTHING as neither the USSR nor the successor state of Russia **have ever signed any peace treaty with Japan**. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Japan is not pressing a claim currently to Karafuto, nor to the Chishima retto, but that in no way legitimizes current Russian occupation of those areas and other Japanese lands. Compare and contrast to the treaty settlements specifically made to hand over sovereignty of Taiwan and kantoushuu to the ROChina, the re-creation of Korean sovereignty, and granting several island territories and one prefecture (Okinawa) to the United States. <–note that most of the latter have reverted to Japan under later treaties. VERY COMPLEX legal issues there.

((ducks back out for now))

Susan, Not smart – just used a clue – Nobel Peace Prize winner…… Saw Teddy’s name and that he was behind the treaty…..so, lucky guess!

I agree with you – Teddy Roosevelt Lounge at Tokyo DisneySea…..

K2 —

Bonus (1): helping negotiate the end of the Russo-Japanese War

Bonus (2): the Treaty of San Francisco following the Second World War which gave the Southern Sakhalin to the USSR.

LDG–

Max guessed Disneyland in Tokyo–

and you answered more pondering but if you had said the location was correct, then maybe we could have concentrated in that area– LOL

K2– YOU ARE SO SMART!

Teddy Roosevelt Lounge at Tokyo DisneySea

Did “Billy Beer” (who was Jimmy’s brother) sponsor the dumbo ride at Tokyo

I really have to go.

Tie in what K2 has so far into the rest of the question(s), and I look forward to seeing your (all’s) success when I can return.
((departs, regretably))

The individual is Theodore Roosevelt, and for that reason.

“Located at Disneyworld – Tokyo.” –half right, it is in Tokyo Disney Resort… but which park?

@K2

WOW! Got it at the buzzer!

@All

I need to be out of here for several hours, so here is a little assistance (but not really a hint) to help you along:

I know for a fact that it is possible, even if you had never been to a Disney theme park, to “brute-force” solve the basic question, but it isn’t trivial…

You’ll need a list of all Nobel Peace Prize awardees. You can discount organizations, as the question calls for an individual.

You’ll need to search *carefully* all named Rides, Theaters, Shops, Restaurants, Halls and named Structures. When searching for a given individual’s name, you can discount any attraction/venue at a park *in the same country as their nationality* as again, the question precudes that.

If you are careful, or lucky, you should get a match.

…but you know…

you have to wonder, don’t you, what sort of attraction/venue would be sponsored by a Brewery?

Sunshine – I really like your guess ….. Dumbo ride in honor of Jimmy Carter. Perfect!

Teddy Roosevelt – 1906 Nobel Peace Prize Winner for the “The Treaty of Portsmouth of 1905 stands today as one of history’s great peace negotiations. It ended the Russo-Japanese War’.

Located at Disneyworld – Tokyo.

@Susan-AZ

Intellectual similarity doesn’t count.

Al Gore and the Goofy’s exhibit?

JEN!!!!!!!

ldg…oh duh, thanks!

Comment by FL Sunshine
May 1st, 2008 at 2:40 pm
There’s a dumbo ride at Disney…Jimmy Carter!

ROFLMAO—-actually I think I P’d!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@FL Sunshine

toooooooo true, in analog.
((laughing very hard))

@Patty

re: “what catagory ” –From the question statement: “What Nobel Peace Prize awardee …”

Avi-

Maybe The Lion King?

xxxx

drive carefully when you get your license!

ldg…can you tell us what catagory the nobel prize was? without giving it away?

There’s a dumbo ride at Disney…Jimmy Carter!

@Susan-AZ

Luck on your errands this day. I’ll hang around here until the hour turns, then leave this as an exercise until I can wander back in here ‘evening’ time, U.S. zones.

Patty–

ditto to your post @ 2:26-

do you know how many times I have changed his first question on the browser? At least an hour’s worth!!!

xxxxx

actually trigonometry

Comment by LDG
May 1st, 2008 at 2:15 pm

@Jen S

That’s half the fun of this, finding tangential items.

Maathai is an Awardee, but you are correct to discount her from this challenge.

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” Tangential”

tangent —- geometry hate that word….. SIN COS TAN ( TANGENT ) AND THE reciprocals also HAHA only 3 more months of math to go ……..weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee whoooo

Here is another one Jen– not the answer-

Isabella Rossellini; and Nobel Peace Prize …

Actress Isabella Rossellini has been named one of five recipients of Disney Wildlife Conservation Fund, a program that has benefited nearly 500 wildlife projects around the world.
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LDG–

I have to leave for the day- will check later in the late afternoon to see what goes here!

xxxxx

have a good sleep!

Jen, i read 3 pages on her earlier, decided there was no immigration idea attached. Glad you asked!!

@Avi

hehheh… that sounds like the frustration of a test-taker, there. Still, *I* wouldn’t mind if Jessica Alba was the answer… ah well.

@Patty

in english… I’m not so good in English, apparently. Would nihongo be alright?
((big grin back))

@All

yelp again if more direction is needed. But I would think this is one you’d rather get right yourselves.

ldg…you make these so hard! *L*
can you explain that in english. just kidding!

LDG,

MICKY MOUSE? sUPER MAN?

wALT dISNEY?

pI PI THE SALIOR MAN?

OR HOW ABOUT jESSICA aLBA

Dang Jen–

even if your answer is not correct, that is a good answer– I had to check her out- 2004 Nobel Peace Prize winner

@Jen S

That’s half the fun of this, finding tangential items.

Maathai is an Awardee, but you are correct to discount her from this challenge.

hint: the attraction or venue ’s sponsor is a Brewery.

Oh–that’s where I was going to go–Bush Gardens! lol

Wangari Maathai
@ Animal Kingdom; they gave her a grant on behalf of her work ; the Green Belt Movement.
The Expedition Everest ride opened the same day she was honored, but that’s all I know. I’m sure this isn’t what you are looking for but since I was just at Animal Kingdom I found this interesting

ok, that was a yelp.

hint: the attraction or venue ’s sponsor is a Brewery.

Your question is a yelp!!! ouch! and ouch!

Martin Luther King?

Anything to do with the American Adventure?

yelp for help if a hint is needed.

they have a Disney connection? naaaah.

UN Refugee Agency’s Nobel Peace Prize

“it’s a small world”

the last time i was at disney was 1980, i cant even remember what was there! *L*

The UN (United Nations) received a Nobel Peace Prize, however I can’t recall an exhibit at Disney regarding them. Anyone know?
The last time I was at Disney Orlando we were more concerned about having another go at Space Mountain than something “political”.

here’s a clarification, following John’s general thinking…

Hall of the Presidents is dedicated to *all* the U.S. Presidents. There was an old attraction dedicated to Lincoln, but quite obviously he was not a Nobel Peace Prize awardee.

So you need an Awardee, some Awardee, and an attraction or venue that honors them directly.

more pondering required.

I’m guessing Disney Land Tokyo.

Hmmmmmmmmm…….the only venue at a Disneyland/World that I recall is the Hall of Presidents (or something like that). The only US presidents that have received the Nobel Peace Prize that I can think of are Wilson and Carter.
Wilson’s League of Nations maybe, although that doesn’t appear to have had too much to do with immigration

heh

full credit for creativity, but…

Jules Verne’s Captain Nemo and the lost city of Atlantis?

Ok, I promised (elsewhere) to post a new exercise for today. Here it is:

***
What Nobel Peace Prize awardee is also honored in an Attraction/Venue at a Disney theme-park?

What does that imply about the relations *at the time* between the individual so awarded and the country (hereafter referred to as Country #1) in which the theme-park is located, and what does it imply about what is learned *currently* in the education system of the country of the awardee vs. in Country #1?

Bonus (1): What landmark agreement regarding Immigration is in part attributed to that relationship *at the time* of this cited Nobel Peace Prize award?

Bonus (2): What later treaty negotiation is said to have squandered that same relationship and led to an unfortunate change of world-view by the government and common populace of Country #1?

***
Good luck!

LDG–

It is your turn– I hope I am not forcing you guys to post questions to keep me happy– Sincerely-

xxxxxx

Max- t-shirt– ahhh!

I am headed out to do the court thing– I came back from taking Ken to the gym this morning to feed him and I made the mistake in logging on Adam’s blog– as I have sat here reading on the Venezuela news–

Now I am really headed out!! LOL My errands will have to wait for later!

LDG: i think it’s your turn.

@All

I can be available to play again on the ‘morrow. Shall I come up with something question-like for then, or do I get to play?

Susan: a guy last night noticed that the t-shirt i was wearing was from Arizona.

Here’s a good one: Where are you going today?

Max—

yes to your comment– it was a rather crazy era!

Are we done playing this game? I see it is only you and me now– well you can ask me a question and I will gladly play the game by myself– I have to leave here- but I will be back late this afternoon so go ahead and post a question– but only if you want– if you don’t feel like it, by no means don’t do it!

xxxxxx

Susan: They both seem to have played a role in opening up sexual freedoms, and were the grandparents of the sexual revolution of the 1960s.

Max–

another character of the time was Zelda Fitzgerald– “wild as a march hare.”

yes– she was quite a character– contraversial– which is why I find her to be so fascinating– and she was a free spirit- plagued by human emotions–

this was fun– and thank you!

xxxx

departed

Susan: for her last performance in the US she also exposed her breasts.

time to go–

thanks Max!!!

xxxx

when she was here in the US dancing, people were appalled at her showing her ankles and her flismy garments while dancing- so when Teddy made his comment about her, she was more accepted by the general public–

that concludes that part of my question– LOL

The way she died sounded straight out of a comedy movie.

there you go– Max– you found the answer– LOL

Now who is going to take a stab at the next question?

and if Isadora had something to do with it, karma took care of it- as to how she died also-

He was known to be a drunk– violent– slit his wrists once and left a note– he was found hanging–so no telling how it really happened–

“Then, one night in Paris, Isadora Duncan danced to the haunting melody of Chopin’s “Funeral March,” and a vision of tragedy came to her. She danced with eyes closed and saw her two children threatened by evil. She danced as though in a trance, and her audience sat, thrilled, chilled, and breathless. It was terrible and it was beautiful. A few days passed and the father of her son stood before her. His lips were dry and his eyes were haggard. He told of the death of her two children.”

the conventional thinking she opposed originally was marriage–

Now she had a vision and this vision put her into like a trance which mesmerized the audience– who was the composer- name his work- and the vision?

Susan: apprently his death was ruled a suicide, but there was a lot of evidence suggesting it might not have been.

She dislike her students for performing for money?

I don’t know about the hitman– she was married to him for a year– and he committed suicide at the age of 30– He married Tolstoy’s granddaughter after they separated—-

and maybe the fact her father abandoned them at one point might have had something to do with her thinking– but that is a whole different issue- LOL

Susan: did she oppose the murder of husbands but she hired a hitman to kill the Russian poet Sergei Yesenin?

her personal life was not something I would agree with but her dancing was something I do admire–

as for her dancing– she did not believe in the conventional way of ballet and hence gave the freer form of dancing– what I liked about her was her way of combining nature, poetry, and music in her dancing–

but there was something she opposed but later in life did do it!

She was considered by many to be the Mother of Modern Dance

Max – so right you are – she really did sleep around didn’t she??? Bisexual on top of that!! She did, however, live a rather sad life with losing her children, etc.

Russia screwed her over–

Later in her life she opened a dancing school in Moscow where the Russian government promised to provide her with room and board and a schoolroom. However, after the school was built the government did not support her. To support herself, she returned to the stage unsuccessfully in America and then toured Europe once more. She died in Europe.

not quite– but somewhere around that thought!

what conventional thought did she oppose?

She was a communist, and slept around.