Another Rerun?
It doesn’t seem that long ago.
It all began one early fall morning on a street corner in Hollywood, our camera’s across the street from Paramount Studios as writers hit the picket lines. At the time, no one could have known that 100 days, 37,000 jobs and more than 2-billion dollars later, the strike would be over. We mentioned at the time the possibility that actors may be in the same situation, now we have arrived at the time.
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The issue seems simple, but there’s a bit of a curve ball involved. Simply put, the actors want future and new media rights and compensation, more money for actors making less than $100,000 a year and a stronger pension. Negotiations with SAG (The Screen Actors Guild) are going nowhere, but the other and smaller actors union AFTRA (American Federation of Television and Radio Artists), has signed a deal that is currently being voted on. SAG leaders are urging people to oppose the deal because they feel a better deal can be reached. Currently 44,000 men and women are members of both unions, with results of the vote expected in about 7 days.
Meantime, the SAG contract expires tonight and leaders say they haven’t even called for a strike vote yet. Studio heads at this point say television production will go on and movies are wrapping up. Will new ones begin to shoot?
How long will shows shoot without a contract? Can the two unions work together? All these questions and many others are yet to be answered. Some actors are already taking sides, while others like George Clooney are calling for unity.
So today, we sit in Culver City. Sony Studios seems busy as normal, but the looming possibility of a strike has everyone passing by asking us what we think will happen and others worry about another stoppage and more lost wages…within the industry and many jobs indirectly supported on the outside.
KC….
Agree - miss Housley in the House, too.
Is your beach place anywhere near Santa Barbara?
Adam
CAN WE HAVE HOUSLEY IN THE HOUSE BACK????????????????????????
the average writer still makes (about) US$5,000 a year writing, and a few handfuls make US$1,000,000+…
I am told by friends who came and went in acting that it is *worse* in that field…
So if you need a rationalization, rather than a justification: something like 1 person in a million population in the U.S.A. is paid superstar wages for art… about the same as in Pro Sports… or the CEO level in big business…
…and as was cited above, the capital/corporations behind each of those salaries makes 10~100 times as much in revenues off the talent, minimum.
see? I can be on topic as well as make another test post… which this is. Any bets it clears the mod cue before the ‘blog clock turns 1400hrs?
Susan
I am full blooded German - Does that give you a hint - Stubborn and a Leo to boot!!!!
Adam
Heard this morning about the fires in Santa Barbara adding to all of the other 1400 fires burning.
Our air quality is soooooo bad, it hurts my chest just to go out and work in our vegetable/herb garden
How are you holding up with your asthma?????
Sylvia,
your comparing two different things in life and society. Your point about nurses going on strike can be made just about everything. What would happen if all lawyers or news reporters went on strike. How many nurses make 100k dunno and dont really care to know. Your not in the right thinking mode. Your point from what im understanding is socialist and liberal complaining about other peoples wealth. Tamera for example isnt your Angelia Joliee make hundreds of millions of dollars. She deserves every single penny for working as an actress. Every profession has its salary respectfully. You might be looking at those who are well off with a scornful eye which is your right and its also your right to critize them when they want more. A nurse isnt a an actress and a lawyer isnt a garbage man. Its like apples and oranges two different things to different tastes but still part of the same family. My dad works hard for a living from 8 30 or 9 till 8-9pm sometimes. Im sure Tamera works late as well as she said. well off people are well off because they worked hard for it. Tamera didnt just walk up one day to become a fortunate actress she worked hard and it paid off. I dont like when people talk bad about well off people when they want more money….. they deserve it they work hard and it shouldnt be questioned. Also well of people have families to feed and bills to pay. They make the right decisions so they can maintain their wealth. Attacking someone for their wealth is disgusting and it just sad …. it shows jeliousy… Dont attack someone if you dont know what they do and how hard they work.
Actresses are one thing Nurses are another. You cant compare the two and the work involved in them. Just like you can say garbage should get paid like lawyers or CEO’s.
People chose their life paths and people have to work hard to get somewhere in life. When you feel your under paid then a strike is what needs to be done. Just look here at Israel all high school teachers were on strike for 2months this year to demand more money. They deserved it as they were very poorly paid.
Good morning!
My name is blue as WordPress would no longer post the abandoned airport site, a site I was quite proud of. My dad had built one of the airports on that site in the 1940’s and taught people how to fly for WW11, while my mom ferried planes from the factory to where they were needed for the war.
He built airport number 2 on that site, so I grew up with airports, airplanes and all aspects of general aviation that were featured on that page. I worked the airports with my family throughout my childhood, and those airports enabled me to retire early, raise and college educate my two children, as well as travel the world with them.
So in my eyes, airplanes are not freaky, but a legacy to my father of who I am quite proud!
Tamera,
That was my point as well the average income of my actors is very low in a place where housing is way to high for most people. I went to LA in a week I figured out I loved Texas too much, and having my life with stability. I am glad I went on vacation there, but I could never see myself dealing with all that drama.
Good Morning all…..or, should I say Good Afternoon (as it will probably be this long before you see the post)
Susan, Yes, humor like Monk. Tune in to Burn Notice on July 10th - 9 p.m. CST
It is about a covert agent who gets relieved of his job (burn notice) and has no clue as to why……access to his money and ID have been blocked. He is searching for the person(s) who ‘burned’ him.
Tamera, excellent post. Looking forward to your upcoming work.
Tamera,
How many nurses make 100,000/year? They work hard, are under staffed, and deal with life/death situations. I am not a nurse, but I’m just trying to explain to you and Avi that it is hard to be sympathetic to actors who want to strike for more money. What would people do if nurses went on strike?
Sylvia
The bus number 13….is a bus i use when im in j-town to get from the central bus station to the city center……..
The terrorist was a israeli arab with an ID ….. just like that last guy who killed a handful of students at a school a few months ago……..
Avi-
As always, thanks for keeping us in the loop. I know where this attack happened and I have to admit, when I am in Jerusalem, I watch out for busses and bus stops. The attacks are just stuck in my mind.
Adam
TERROR ATTACK IN J-TOWN…. UH OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
12:14 At least 30 hurt in Jerusalem bus attack (Channel 2)
12:14 Drive of bulldozer that hit J`lem bus shot dead by security forces (Channel 2)
12:13 Report: One woman dead in Jerusalem bus attack (Channel 2)
12:12 Witness: Bulldozer deliberately hit J`lem bus, hit other vehicles as well (Reuters)
12:12 MDA spokesperson: Many wounded in J`lem, including some seriously (Israel Radio)
12:08 Dozens said hurt in series of attacks in Jerusalem (Israel Radio)
12:07 Crowded Jerusalem bus overturns after being hit by tractor (Israel Radio)
12:05 Police shoot bulldozer driver who targeted Jerusalem bus (Israel Radio)
12:04 Bulldozer driver hit bus in Jaffa Rd. in J`lem; several casualties reported (Israel Radio)
Kathy-
I just saw The Dead Zone on the ION network, i think it was formerly known as the PAX network. And i guess after a series runs 4 years it automatically goes into syndication, am i correct?
Susan-
I am not sure i really like Tom Hanks. He is a liberal actor, who starred in a lot of Anti American films. I did like him back in the day when he was in that movie BIG.
Chuck Norris and Tom Selleck, now those are some of my all time favorite stars
Susan-
Why would you be in trouble? I have windows xp also. There is aboslutely nothing to worry about. If something should even go wrong with your computer, just call in a computer expert, or ask me
Plus be sure to click on “clear private data” on the top portion of your browser if you have Firefox, to rid your computer’s hard drive from those pesky cookies that contain viruses.
Its the same with internet explorer, just click on the top left hand corner and delete your files and cookies.
Hope this helps.
Sylvia,
I agree with Avi. AS an actor myself, I highly couldn’t disagree more with your statements. Why can’t they get a real job you say?! Obviously, you have NEVER shot a drama! LOL! You try working 16 hours a day! Yep you read right 16 hours A day on your feet! The normal is 9 to 5 right? And on top of that try working that long then coming home to raise a family . It takes 9 days to shoot one hour of your enjoyment on TV. What YOU SEE is the final product. Its a lot harder than you think. Additionally, you have to realize that our job is not as stable as the the norm. So, it may seem like a lot of money in one pop. But one actor may not work EVER again in 2 years, 3 years, etc. When they get old, fat, etc. Also, NOT ALL ACTORS get the Will SMITH and ANGELINA JOLIE salaries.
But speaking of Will SMITH, you also have to take into consideration how much the producers, studios, and networks are making off of our talent. When Will Smith; the talent, makes studios over 2 billion dollars. YEP two billion off of him. He’s salary is just a small part of that. Oh and by the way on feature films you work LONGER! I encourage you to take one acting class for a month and then come back and try make a LIVING off of it. Not easy, Very hard. To top it off, and not to say the least, we constantly deal with rejection and the scrutiny of others. In a FISH BOWL. But hey I love what I do, and I know there will always be people of the public including you who like to escape reality for awhile and go see a movie. In a way, you need us entertainers:)
Hope I gave you a new outlook on our field.
xoox
Tamera Mowry
P.S.
thanks AVI
Well, I did my test run– I posted a couple hours ago and nada!!
GRRR!
This is quite challenging– maybe we should all take bets on posting time! I say within the next five hours! What say you?
Comment by βɛʈʈɥ ✈ ✈ ✈
July 1st, 2008 at 1:12 pm
HAPPY TECH TUESDAY!
POST TODAY - SEE YOUR POST NEXT TUESDAY!
This was funny too!!! LOL
Wow I am going to answer like you can read this right now. There is nothing else I can do.
Important Dates to remember:
Burn Notice - July 10 at 9 pm
The Closer - July 14 at 8 pm
Monk - July 18 at 8 pm
Psych - July 18 at 9 pm
This schedule is CST, the reason I am posting this these shows, and The Shield and Rescue Me all film at a different time so they will be safe for the season. Usually summer is the taping time they used to film some in June when the seasons are longer. Now I think they film after July 4th. There are only thirteen episodes so it doesn’t take as long.
The Dead Zone and 4400 both went to syndication on the SciFi channel. Which has some interesting shows from time to time and I rarely like SciFi.
I feel sorry for Adam, he really should have his own blog courtesy of FNC. Adam is more than just a reporter, he is a techie and a blogger in every sense. It has to be hard for him to be able to blog but he is unable to with these problems.
So other than the shows I have said and reality TV most big shows like Boston Legal will be shut down unless this strike doesn’t happen.
I am a Psych fanatic, as well as Burn Notice and Monk, some nice eye candy on a couple of those shows. So much that the list you see my friend wrote up for me and her mom. We adore those shows. Friday night football is tough juggle too!
Oh money the Average yearly income when I was actively acting was like $500 a year. It may be more but the majority of the members of SAG don’t make a lot. They have a scale they pay by, you get so much per word or sentence. Which is why you see actors arguing over how many lines they get. They all started out begging for words, most of them don’t speak.
But in all fairness to actors– they do work hard– day and night– seven days a week–
I like Tom Hanks and Anthony Hopkins!! I think these guys are great actors–
Adam’s thread- Another Rerun?
It should read- Another Rerun of Bloggers complaining about the instant posting being gone! LOL
Patty– where the heck did you work as a waitress and get three bucks an hour? I got $2.15– and talk about acting– this is where one does a lot of acting!! Pretending to like the jerk who doesn’t see how busy you are and keeps demanding more attention- LOL
KC–
I am so enjoying your posts!! I never even knew you had it in you to put up a fight– you had always been so mellow!!
Yeah Moderator– listen to KC–
@Sylvia–
Comment by Sylvia
July 1st, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Maybe cars can run on beer. That could solve the oil crisis.
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If I had been drinking a beer, it would have been all over the monitor– that was funny!!! Which flavor of beer? The McCain’s?
OK- Adam– what IS the deal here? Are we going to get instant posting back or are we going to have to continue with this way? I am sending Avi to the headquarters in New York– He will be there in 11 days! Maybe one day by the time this gets posted!
K2– Burn Notice– funny like Psych and Monk?
@LDG–
Mudville– Casey at the Bat?
So Brad— what does this mean for my puter who is XP? Am I like in trouble?
Avi- good idea!!! about the US forces!
Patty- I just got back from CA– I am going to work for Jay Leno!
Brad– my favorite stuff from the past– Twilight Zone– Combat– Mission Impossible– The Avengers- The Addams Family- The Man From UNCLE- Get Smart- Outer Limits- Red Skeleton- Hollywood Squares when Paul Lynde was on it– Monty Python- phew– I think I brought back some time here which has definitely just aged me!! Oh yes– The Carol Burnett Show– Tim cracked me up!
Well, if this posts, it should be maybe in the next decade–
I am with you Patty– I can be just as stubborn! LOL
Let’s see - 15 comments posted as of 6:00am (my time) and 28 comments posted by 1:15pm (my time) My post of 8:13am (my time) showed up at 1:15pm (my time) - 5 hours
THINK A SECOND OPINION IS IN ORDER ADAM!!!!
We will always hang in with you here Adam, but it is getting very frustrating and like Patty says, we are suffering from the DT”S, which leads to whining.
That “hopper” must be mighty full - and you stated it is slower on the weekends - Can’t even imagine that!!
Kathy, Love Burn Notice! Sure hope they have finished filming all episodes……if not, they can re-run last years shows.
Susan, You would enjoy Burn Notice…..a little spy stuff - lots of humor!
Hello to all…..sure miss the instant posting and conversation. Sure hope it is back soooooooooon!
Betty,
get rid of the planes and alll ur freaky stuff in your posts….. soo everything is just black like ours…
its messing up the speed of our posts…….. as adam said …
Susan,
its not wordpress its fox news ……. lol…..
11 DAYS TO NYC
and miami…. let the fun begin
Avi,
You are probably the only person who thinks actors deserve the mega salaries they make. If they go on strike they hurt the people behind the scenes who do not make enormous salaries. I feel sorry for those people who lose pay because the actors strike. Yes , I enjoy theater (those actors work for scale), some movies, and some TV shows, but I think actors need to think about how their decisions affect others in the industry.
Avi…you’ll have a hard time selling me on those wages. I’ve worked my fingers to the bone, litterally, 24/7 milking cows, working 180 acres of crop ground, eating the dirt on tractors without cabs, living pay check to the next bank visit for a loan to run the rest of the season. Aslo working full time as a waitress at $3 /hr + tips and being a mom of 4. Im sorry, but 100K seems like heaven!
At the same time, I also wouldnt change a thing i’ve done. It has taught me that worth isnt always attached to a $ sign, a appreciation for the land, and tolerance!
Maybe cars can run on beer. That could solve the oil crisis.
Susan-
Its the same with Internet Explorer, there are still going to allow you to upload the current version, but they arent going to have technical support and fix all the bugs and glitches. I guess Microsoft is going to unveil something news in the upcoming months.
HAPPY TECH TUESDAY!
POST TODAY - SEE YOUR POST NEXT TUESDAY!
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“Beer. Now cheaper than gas. Drink, Don’t Drive.”
oh well. There is no joy in Mudville…
((departs))
We should all go picket in front of the building in NYork about this wordpress issue–
Adam– will you do the coverage? And have Shep cover it on his show? I pick Shep– anyone else have a favorite?
I will come back this time in 2009 to see if my posts cleared! I think I would rather go through clearance at the airport– it takes less time! LOL
Topic related–
Wages– I think correspondents and those who go out on a limb to do a job which is dangerous and or to save lives should be making way more than 100 grand a year! So if Hollywood is wailing about not making more than this, go try doing one of these jobs at half the salary!
Kudos to Greg!
I posted an article about a British student getting points for spelling expletives right on a test he took which was a funny article and it didn’t post– I thought the article was rather amusing– and benign–
boy– this wordpress is definitely getting picky–
from Adam’s-
So today, we sit in Culver City…
Were there fires too a couple weeks ago in this area?
tuesday morning hope for some improvement test post…
Well, here we go again - this blog has been at 15 comments since 6:00am this morning, and it is now 8:13am (my time) Curious to see how long it takes for this to appear on the blog. I also do not agree with the explanation given about links, signs, etc.. and that is why everything goes into a hopper to be “manually read”. Does not make sense when instant posting appears on another blog which is filled with links, signs, and vulgarity. Oh well, maybe someday we will be able to talk with each other and discuss issues at hand.
Good morning everyone
Betty–
I think–only think, Adam meant by your name being a link, and maybe all the other names in blue too, that there is a link behind the blue, so these have to checked out too– You know to see someone isn’t like maybe posting some vulgarity behind their name–
Good thing I stopped doing my name in blue– awhile back, I was finding out to use expetives in other languages and then doing the blue thing with my name posting the site. LOL
K2 was my best student!
Slyvia,
Not all actors make millions of millions of dollars. Its no easy fit being an actor…… its not as easy at it looks….. If it werent for actors alot of what we see on T.V. and in the theaters wouldnt be what they are and such an argument can be made for anything else. Having no empathy for them and their cause is just bitter and wrong . They work HARD just like my dad does as a lawyer and as hard as you do at whatever you do. Some of us just make more for what we do and they do and they deserve it.
Susan,
We all should get US special forces to take over World Press/ FOX news Blogs and fix this problemo lets see if it happens again ;)…….
Brad: I loved the first series of the dead zone. But it was hard for me to catch so i’ve not seen it for a while.
I’m the same about the TV shows and movies though, i don’t watch much other than Fox News. But i keep finding that my favorite comedians are Republicans though. Like Adam Sandler.
Susan, you and me can go earn that 100K…split it, and maybe even get Jen a date on the side! *L* (shhh don’t tell her rob!)
Where do we sign up? I could use the pay raise!
“morning everyone.
Sorry Adam, I dont take the tech’s explanation either. We’ve always had “odd characters” and managed instant posting. ie: John, Sgt. etc. *L*
You have spoiled us with the blog, so its your fault we are suffering from dt’s, which in turn leads to whining! But we’re still here. We can be as stubborn as the techs or word press!
Heck, maybe there is a puter geek standing in line with the actors that needs a job!!!
Good morning!
Saw you on Shepard Smith’s show yesterday evening - looking good! I have a difficult time finding sympathy for the actors/actresses and their wages. ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈
Kathy-
Was the The Dead Zone recently cancelled? I was flipping the channels recently and saw it on another network, other than USA. Just wondering.
I dont really care that much for the current movie and tv shows, it seems as the years go by, they become of lesser quality. That is why when the Writers Strike took place earlier this year, it didnt affect me one bit. Because i dont watch much of the programs anymore. FoxNews is basically all i watch.
Plus most of the Hollywood actors are rich overpriced liberals, that take pleasure in badmouthing thre Bush Adminitration. So why should i reward them by watching any of their movie and film projects?
Windows XP on its way out?
http://tech.msn.com/microsoft/articlepcw.aspx?cp-documentid=8354050>1=40000
Avi-
while in New York, go visit the techs there and show them how to fix this! LOL
Kathy Texas–
You like Psych too? I LOVE Gus and Shawn!!! LOL According to my tele, they will start the new season here in July.
All I know is…George Clooney is a hunk! and a good actor.
And I don’t get the excuses for wordpress– what is so different now than before! If you want to talk about whacks and vulgarity, there is another blog which continues to run on instant posting and full of links and off the wall remarks!
xxxxx
Patty– we can fill in for less than 100 grand a year! LOL
I was gone all day– who in Hollywood makes less than 100 grand a year? Someone who plays a small part here and there? I will fill in if that is the case for 80 grand a year!! LOL
Well– As long Psych and Monk don’t go on strike as their new season starts, I am happy with watching my DVD’s I haven’t watched as I buy them and then don’t watch them!
@Adam– in response to your post on the preceding thread-
@Adam
Contrary to some claims, there isn’t some dude dressed in black reading everything and then deciding what goes up. Got that John!
Adam
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Wrong! My sources tell me different!
Hidden away in a sanctum in the heart of New York City, a being in black ponders beneath a blue light and chuckles slyly to himself as he peruses reports of his secret agents.
For The Shadow knows!
These two unions have never gotten along. I mean it has been the Hatfields and McCoys. Normally you had to make a choice which union with your first job to go with.
SAG in the past has been willing to sit out a very long time, most of them are poor anyway. I just can’t seeing the SAG bigwigs giving in and losing potential revenue.
Burn Notice and Psyche haven’t even premiered! Rotten timing I tell you. But then again SAG would have the upper hand. Adam have the pilots and the 13 episode shows starting taping yet?
I would like to think if i made 100 grand a year, let alone a pension, that i wouldnt complain!
but thats just from where i sit.
They shouldn’t get anything more. SAG obviously has a bloated opinion of itself(as indeed, many actors themselves do!!!!), and they should quit whining and be happy for what they DO have, which is so much more than most americans!
Adam, your closing remarks are the most important…… how many hundreds of people will lose their jobs because of the strike?
Perhaps the union leaders and members should think about the ramifications of their decision.
And, to jump on the bandwagon…..sure do miss the automatic posting…….. Hope it is back soon.
I have little sympathy for actors who are mostly over paid and have giant egos. Let them get a real job like most hard working Americans.
Adam
Just heard about this - another strike — unbelievable
As a side note, how can we discuss this issue or any other when we cannot get anything to post for hours??? Are you getting closer to the solution??